Topic: Tag Alias: ukelele -> ukulele

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

Yellowfin_Tuna said:
Aliasing ukelele → ukulele
Link to alias

Reason:

The former is a common-enough misspelling of ukulele to warrant an alias.

There are currently six posts tagged with it instead of ukulele, for whatever it's worth.

wait,m e621 got that tag? But that's not really misspell, it's variant. Original hawaian name is u-koo-lei-le, but it pronounced as ukeleile, regardless how it is spelled

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Hudson

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Swiftkill said:
wait,m e621 got that tag? But that's not really misspell, it's variant. Original hawaian name is u-koo-lei-le, but it pronounced as ukeleile, regardless how it is spelled

Same story for American/British variants for tags like gray and grey. We tend to stick to British English spellings, hence why we use grey_fur.

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Hudson said:
Same story for American/British variants for tags like gray and grey. We tend to stick to British English spellings, hence why we use grey_fur.

Off topic, but my god did your new avatar throw me off. I literally thought someone else was masquerading as you...

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Hudson said:
We tend to stick to British English spellings, hence why we use grey_fur.

Do we? What about all the instances of "color"? Or "-ize" instead of "-ise"?

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BlueDingo said:
Or acoustic_guitar because a ukulele is a small acoustic guitar.

I am not sure about that, size is a very distinctive factor regarding musical instruments (since it interferes considerably in the sound). Also that would be practically the same as implying 'violin' to 'violoncello' and other similar implications; I have a feeling that this could rapidly turn into a mess.

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O16 said:
I am not sure about that, size is a very distinctive factor regarding musical instruments (since it interferes considerably in the sound). Also that would be practically the same as implying 'violin' to 'violoncello' and other similar implications; I have a feeling that this could rapidly turn into a mess.

Actually, violin is a weird one because it's both an instrument and a family of instruments containing that instrument. Violin, cello and contrabass/doublebass/insertoneoftwentyothernameshere are all part of the violin family.

I dug into it a little bit and a ukulele is apparently a type of lute, which is a type of acoustic guitar, so we have a choice of what to implicate it to besides musical_instrument.

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BlueDingo said:
Actually, violin is a weird one because it's both an instrument and a family of instruments containing that instrument.

Actually, 'violin' isn't a family itself, there is a group if instruments called 'violin family' (or 'violas'), in which it is included.

Exemplification of musical instrument families:

  • pianos (e.g. grand piano).
  • flutes (e.g. sweet flute).
  • drums (e.g. conga).
  • Violas (e.g. violoncello).
  • etc.

BlueDingo said:

I dug into it a little bit and a ukulele is apparently a type of lute, which is a type of acoustic guitar, so we have a choice of what to implicate it to besides musical_instrument.

Technically this is accurate, however in popular language 'acoustic guitar' commonly is used for a small group of guitars (medium size and eight shaped), in such way that someone unlikely would search for 'acoustic guitar' wanting to find an ukulele.

I would be in favor of accuracy, but this practicality issue...

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O16 said:
Technically this is accurate, however in popular language 'acoustic guitar' commonly is used for a small group of guitars (medium size and eight shaped), in such way that someone unlikely would search for 'acoustic guitar' wanting to find an ukulele.

I would be in favor of accuracy, but this practicality issue...

Then we're down to lute and guitar.

For some reason, lute doesn't imply anything yet.

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BlueDingo said:
Then we're down to lute and guitar.

For some reason, lute doesn't imply anything yet.

Maybe I works for lute (however I have my doubts about what to do regarding 'lute' itself).

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O16 said:
Maybe I works for lute (however I have my doubts about what to do regarding 'lute' itself).

As I mentioned before, a lute is a type of acoustic guitar. We can implicate it to guitar.

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BlueDingo said:
As I mentioned before, a lute is a type of acoustic guitar. We can implicate it to guitar.

Hmmm... Yes we could, but I guess thave an idea.

Earlier I mentioned a certain shape that people usually relates to acoustic guitars in general, so what about crating a specific tag for those guitars and let the "unusual types" (e.g. dramyin, harp gitar, lyre guitar, ) separated, but all them implicated to 'acoustic_guitar'?

Something like:

  • acoustic_guitar
    • hypothetical_tag
    • harp_guitar
    • lyre_guitar
    • lute
      • ukulele
      • dramyin

This way anyone can search separately for the "common types" as well as for any other kind of acoustic guitar or even for the complete conjoint.

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If we can find a suitable term, that would work. I tried looking at the wikipedia page several hours ago but didn't see a suitable term for the "common" one. The terms I did find were too specific.

If we can't find a suitable term, implying all of those to guitar wouldn't hurt.

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BlueDingo said:
If we can find a suitable term, that would work. I tried looking at the wikipedia page several hours ago but didn't see a suitable term for the "common" one. The terms I did find were too specific.

If we can't find a suitable term, implying all of those to guitar wouldn't hurt.

I found one.

classical guitar: medium, wooden, eight-shaped acoustic guitar that has 4 to 12 strings (usually 6), which may be composed of nylon, steel or both.

Note 1: wikipedia treat this one as a specific type of acoustic guitar (spanish guitar) exclusively with 4 nylon strings, however some sources treat it as a subconjunct within the acoustic guitar family, as described above.

Note 2: Most pages that I found either are selling pages or only tell the history of the instrument; I needed to search in books.

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O16 said:
I found one.

classical guitar: medium, wooden, eight-shaped acoustic guitar that has 4 to 12 strings (usually 6), which may be composed of nylon, steel or both.

Sounds good to me.

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