The hour is finally neigh! A new generation of pokermayns is upon us! (Technically it has been for months, but now we have some legitimate info.)

Here's the trailers for those who haven't seen it yet:
English Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn25hijDL7c

Japanese Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r0_F-_ClcQ

and the Serebii link if you want all the info:
http://www.serebii.net/news/2016/10-May-2016.shtml

So, what are your thoughts on the new starters, legendaries, region, etc?

Me personally I'm moderately ok with the starters, the fire starter is the only one that really leapt out at me tho. As for legendaries, Moon one looks pretty cool, but I gotta stick with PRAISE THE SUN. The region seems bretty darn snazzy, great to see it's not another japanese themed region, and i'm glad we're finally restricted to an overhead camera and chibi overworld character models. Though I really hope there's more to the region than the single island we saw in the trailer, cause it looks criminally small.

Also, but of a side tangent here, but is it just an unspoken rule that the art/porn of the first wave of newly released pokemon has to exclusively be male and/or gay? I mean seriously, i've seen this trend since like gen 4

I've noticed the art already popping up here. It... could be a lot better.

I haven't played a main-series Pokemon game since Diamond in 2006, and I started out with Red / Blue back in the late 90's. Since then I've only picked up side series like Mystery Dungeon.

I doubt I'll get involved in this generation, since it's probably just more of the same worn out story

The water starter reminds me of a clown, so by default it can go burn in the deepest pits of hell.

I'm still waiting on Gen 8: Pokemon Yes & No

Release date November 2018

Maybe 2019

At first, I was going to make a low blow comment about them just tossing paint onto a canvas and labeling any two colliding colors as Pokemon, but now that I've seen the trailer I am willing to withhold judgement. It looks like they are actually going back to using animals, so that's an immediate plus, but I guess we'll have to see.

Im in love with litten its soo cute

ooh this looks good.

now to transfer all my OP pokemon to THIS game

Can't wait to see the new Pokemon based on food or real life object getting hated by everyone, continuing the gen5 trend where everybody hated Vanillish and Trubbish while Gen1 gets a free pass because nostalgia

I'm kind of mad the leaks about the owl were right since I didn't want a grass/flying bird starter. Other than that the fire starter looks cute and I'll be choosing that one.

I see a sea lion water starter. It looks goofy, but I like sea lions. I have high hopes for its evolutions.

As it stands the owl is the starter that I like the most thus far.

The cat is fine, I guess, but for a variety of reasons I'm not too excited about that one at all.

Clawdragons said:
I see a sea lion water starter. It looks goofy, but I like sea lions. I have high hopes for its evolutions.

As it stands the owl is the starter that I like the most thus far.

The cat is fine, I guess, but for a variety of reasons I'm not too excited about that one at all.

You have no idea how badly I wanted to tag a_cat_is_fine_too to all of Litten's posts because of what you said...

aurel said:
Fire/fighting anyone? :D

Never again please. Thank you.

Enough with all that. Which Gen 7 pokemans are the sexiest? Who will give Blaziken, Gardevoir, Braixen, Goodra, Sylveon, Zoroark, Lucario, etc. a run for their money?

The only one I have seen so far is the starter litten with the pigtail/whisker things which are a plus.

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Knotty_Curls said:
I'm still waiting on Gen 8: Pokemon Yes & No

Team NON!

Blind_Guardian said:
I'm kind of mad the leaks about the owl were right since I didn't want a grass/flying bird starter. Other than that the fire starter looks cute and I'll be choosing that one.

Why wouldn't you want the grass/flying? So far, the grass/flying combos have been very obviously plant based, not bird based, so I welcome this new pokemon.

Lance_Armstrong said:
Enough with all that. Which Gen 7 pokemans are the sexiest? Who will give Blaziken, Gardevoir, Braixen, Goodra, Sylveon, Zoroark, Lucario, etc. a run for their money?

The only one I have seen so far is the starter litten with the pigtail/whisker things which are a plus.

Hard to say. Litten is too similar to a housecat, Popplio is just a sea lion, and Rowlet is a peach-shaped owl. Popplio might become popular as something without legs, Litten might be like Fennekin where it goes anthro as it evolves, and who knows what they'll do with the peach of an owl.

Furrin_Gok said:
Why wouldn't you want the grass/flying? So far, the grass/flying combos have been very obviously plant based, not bird based, so I welcome this new pokemon.
Hard to say. Litten is too similar to a housecat, Popplio is just a sea lion, and Rowlet is a peach-shaped owl. Popplio might become popular as something without legs, Litten might be like Fennekin where it goes anthro as it evolves, and who knows what they'll do with the peach of an owl.

It's an okay typing and it's refreshing that this starter isn't just another bulbasaur but I was hoping for something "cooler". Right now it's just a round green thing. Hopefully it's evolutions make up for it. Chesnaught last gen was a big disappointment for me.

Inb4
http://ponpekopon.tumblr.com/post/144145747125/about-the-new-pokemons-fire-starter

I like the orb owl :V

Qmannn said:
Too late.

b-but I meant officially ;A;

Rowlet and Pokemon Moon, because I find Lunaala's design exotic and appealing.

I am actually very convinced that Litten will not become Fire/Fighting, and that's because Rowlet is a flying type. To fit the theme for how starters work, the grass starter should lose to the fire starter, fire to water, water to grass. Giving Litten a fighting evolution would put it at a tie with Rowlet (fire would beat grass, but its fighting type would lose to Rowlet's flying).

So yeah. Pretty good odds on them not doing that.

Clawdragons said:
I am actually very convinced that Litten will not become Fire/Fighting, and that's because Rowlet is a flying type. To fit the theme for how starters work, the grass starter should lose to the fire starter, fire to water, water to grass. Giving Litten a fighting evolution would put it at a tie with Rowlet (fire would beat grass, but its fighting type would lose to Rowlet's flying).

So yeah. Pretty good odds on them not doing that.

So that leaves...Ice, Rock, or Electric, correct? I can dig it.

Rontio said:
So that leaves...Ice, Rock, or Electric, correct? I can dig it.

I can see Sega suing if it's Fire and Ice, though *rimshot*

Rontio said:
I can see Sega suing if it's Fire and Ice, though *rimshot*

Why's that? I mean, Fire and Ice seems like an odd, antipodal combination to start with, but why would Sega sue over it?

Furrin_Gok said:
Why's that? I mean, Fire and Ice seems like an odd, antipodal combination to start with, but why would Sega sue over it?

It's a lame joke about that new Sonic Boom game

Eww, gross gen wunner complainers in here

To name off my points:
It being Hawaii took me by surprise; the area was shown was clearly Oahu so I wonder how pokemon's version of the other 5 islands will look.

Popplio is my fav of the starters; reminds me of the Performapals/Entermates from Yu-gi-oh since they both have an animal+circus theme. I love it's little smug poses; good personality there.
Rowlet and Litten are just ok to me.

Love the legends, can't pick one from the other.

Glad to see that at least skin tone is back so can go back to being my delicious brown self.

Never thought I'd say that there now exists a pokemon peral harbor now.

ColdhardSilver said:
To name off my points:
It being Hawaii took me by surprise; the area was shown was clearly Oahu so I wonder how pokemon's version of the other 5 islands will look.

Popplio is my fav of the starters; reminds me of the Performapals/Entermates from Yu-gi-oh since they both have an animal+circus theme. I love it's little smug poses; good personality there.
Rowlet and Litten are just ok to me.

Love the legends, can't pick one from the other.

Glad to see that at least skin tone is back so can go back to being my delicious brown self.

Never thought I'd say that there now exists a pokemon peral harbor now.

Wait, seriously? Japan has eight major provinces (Each split into several subprovinces), they could have gotten away with another Japan influenced region, unless some Continents were based off of groups of provinces.

...Just did research into what the other Pokemon continents are, apparently Unova is New York? That's an even bigger surprise than Hawaii. Kalos is based on France, as well, meaning only four regions are from Japan?

Furrin_Gok said:
Wait, seriously? Japan has eight major provinces (Each split into several subprovinces), they could have gotten away with another Japan influenced region, unless some Continents were based off of groups of provinces.

...Just did research into what the other Pokemon continents are, apparently Unova is New York? That's an even bigger surprise than Hawaii. Kalos is based on France, as well, meaning only four regions are from Japan?

Mostly New York and the surrounding areas, but Unova also has a lot of other USA geographical bits.
Virbank is based off Burbank which is a Californian city.
The central deserts, the tall mountainous regions, small town designs, etc
There is also all the cultural bits with the sports center, the many folks that speak multiple languages in the game, etc.

Flygon said:
Mate, you try doing better than I did in 5 minutes without any actual linearting experience.

There's a reason the description says "Mods can delete if they dislike it". :D

Why does it have to be fast? Sure, being fast gets you your fifteen minutes of fame, but once that dies down, it's the art with more effort and skill put into it that will continue to be enjoyed and shown off in the future. So naturally, the latter seems more valuable than the former.

Qwazzy said:
Why does it have to be fast? Sure, being fast gets you your fifteen minutes of fame, but once that dies down, it's the art with more effort and skill put into it that will continue to be enjoyed and shown off in the future. So naturally, the latter seems more valuable than the former.

Bragging rights. "I was one of the folk responsible for porn within X time"

Qmannn said:
I'm curious, who here has invested in team building (EVs, IVs, Natures, Abilities, Egg Moves, ect.) for the sake of fighting others? I remember there being at least one person here who wondered that as well at least over a year ago, but they were all alone.

I've done it but it's tedious and you get sick of it after doing it for so long. Nowadays I just play on sims like pokemon showdown or inject.

Qmannn said:
I'm curious, who here has invested in team building (EVs, IVs, Natures, Abilities, Egg Moves, ect.) for the sake of fighting others? I remember there being at least one person here who wondered that as well at least over a year ago, but they were all alone.

I maybe trained like 10 pokemon legitimately before I got sick of the process and just became a dirty cheater to pass the time. I took advantage of the QR code exploit way back when, and got a host of competitive pokemans, so excluding this newest gen I have most every pokemon I'd really ever care to use online, now they just collect dust in my PC box until a tournament comes around that doesn't have stupidly specific restrictions.

Nowadays I spend most of my time in showdown (cause battle spot noobs with no strategies outside what they copy/paste from smogon that ragequit when you sweep them started to annoy me.) When Sun and Moon come out, i'll transfer my teams over and enjoy online in there for a while, until it eventually turns into crap too.

Qmannn said:
I'm curious, who here has invested in team building (EVs, IVs, Natures, Abilities, Egg Moves, ect.) for the sake of fighting others? I remember there being at least one person here who wondered that as well at least over a year ago, but they were all alone.

I do. Outside of battling with pals in college and the like, it's surprising soothing to do a rather simple, repetitive task with a bit of mood-setting.
Full stomach, a nice drink next to me, my computer on 4chan or whatever, some nice rock or hip-hop, etc it's a real relaxing time; it's laid back without me just doing nothing, but what I am doing doesn't require too much effort. If that makes any sense.

Popplio and Rowlet stand out and could prove interesting, but Litten looks too basic for my taste.

gen starter sexiness comparison test

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Lance_Armstrong said:
gen starter sexiness comparison test

Chikoritas and Grotles don't have major male pics? Surprising. Grotle doesn't even seem to be very popular at all. At least Chikorita has the Posexe one.

New Trailer and more news!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW14HO7C1Dg

http://www.serebii.net/news/2016/02-June-2016.shtml

The sun legendary's called Solgaleo, it's Psychic and... Steel? With the ability Full Metal Body, which nullifies moves and abilities that lower stats... So basically a name swapped Clear Body...

The moon legendary's called Lunala, a Psychic Ghost (would was expecting Psychic/Dark and Fairy, but whatever) with the ability Shadow Shield, which makes it take less damage from moves when it's HP is full... so basically a name swapped Multiscale...

There's more info about the prof, your rival, and the prof's assistant. And the reveal that the region's made up of 4 islands. As well as the reveal that this version of the pokedex is going to come with a Rotom inhabiting it, which allows it to talk and probably do a lot more, which I openly welcome honestly, Pokedex are pretty standard and boring otherwise, plus it seems pretty cute.

All in all, pretty stoked for the new games! Still though...
>Sun pokemon's weak to fire...
https://67.media.tumblr.com/335547c6a7d45400110da283d7a64766/tumblr_nqbgl4FtCh1qjaikto1_r1_500.png

(I know the sun's made up of plasma, and not fire, but the closest thing pokemans has to it is fire.)

SirBrownBear said:
New Trailer and more news!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW14HO7C1Dg

http://www.serebii.net/news/2016/02-June-2016.shtml

The sun legendary's called Solgaleo, it's Psychic and... Steel? With the ability Full Metal Body, which nullifies moves and abilities that lower stats... So basically a name swapped Clear Body...

The moon legendary's called Lunala, a Psychic Ghost (would was expecting Psychic/Dark and Fairy, but whatever) with the ability Shadow Shield, which makes it take less damage from moves when it's HP is full... so basically a name swapped Multiscale...

There's more info about the prof, your rival, and the prof's assistant. And the reveal that the region's made up of 4 islands. As well as the reveal that this version of the pokedex is going to come with a Rotom inhabiting it, which allows it to talk and probably do a lot more, which I openly welcome honestly, Pokedex are pretty standard and boring otherwise, plus it seems pretty cute.

All in all, pretty stoked for the new games! Still though...
>Sun pokemon's weak to fire...
https://67.media.tumblr.com/335547c6a7d45400110da283d7a64766/tumblr_nqbgl4FtCh1qjaikto1_r1_500.png

(I know the sun's made up of plasma, and not fire, but the closest thing pokemans has to it is fire.)

technically fire is low-grade plasma

The Rotom Pokedex is a rather cute idea, honestly, as long as it doesn't get obnoxious.

Clawdragons said:
The Rotom Pokedex is a rather cute idea, honestly, as long as it doesn't get obnoxious.

Speaking of the Rotom Pokedex, it's being tagged as Rotomdex. I set this to be a species, because the Pokedex itself was designed and mass produced for Rotoms (Yes, plural) to inhabit, but should we maybe make it a character instead?

Qmannn said:
I just realized that the Rotom Pokedex essentially means that you're now able to carry seven Pokemon. One that you can't use for battles, granted, but still a Pokemon beyond the limit of six nonetheless.

This makes me wonder if GameFreak is planning on doing anything different with HMs this generation.

Do you actually put the rotom in a pokéball though? If you don't then it probably doesn't count as a seventh.

Qmannn said:
I just realized that the Rotom Pokedex essentially means that you're now able to carry seven Pokemon. One that you can't use for battles, granted, but still a Pokemon beyond the limit of six nonetheless.

post #913610 Bam, there you go.

Was Iwanko an officially revealed pokemon, or is that a fan name?

Official, but that's the Japanese/Romaji name.

SirBrownBear said:
Official, but that's the Japanese/Romaji name.

Wonder if that means that they'll get it first? I had my hopes up that it'd be released at least to USA and Japan at the same time after seeing the Japanese trailer, where the Japanese kid got it and played with the American kid.

Furrin_Gok said:
Wonder if that means that they'll get it first? I had my hopes up that it'd be released at least to USA and Japan at the same time after seeing the Japanese trailer, where the Japanese kid got it and played with the American kid.

Nah, it'll be a worldwide release, but Corocoro tends to leak this stuff first.

Been running some searches around these things, got two sets of searches for the various announced pokemon:
~rowlet ~litten ~popplio ~lunala ~solgaleo ~magneara Six tags for the original six announcements
~iwanko ~nekkoala ~pikipek ~yungoose ~grubbin Five tags for the later reveals. Am I missing anything here?
Edit: Oh yes that's right, rotomdex is still a thing.

The real question is, will this be a thing?
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#MakeAlolaGreatAgain

LatiosLove said:
The real question is, will this be a thing?
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#MakeAlolaGreatAgain

It seems like it already is.

http://www.pcmag.com/news/345318/yungoos-pokemon-is-gonna-be-yuge-maybe-even-tremendous

Lance_Armstrong said:
gen starter sexiness comparison test

Gen I (winner: water, honorable mention to charizard pics and atryl's *saurs)

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post #515888 post #31064 post #481894 post #856937 post #846157 post #492894

Gen II (winner: fire, because of liveforthefunk)

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post #888204 post #611754 post #815910 post #376482 post #775593 post #31419
post #559644 post #438450 post #856427 post #271906 post #619099 post #240493

Gen III (winner: fire... I mean blaziken)

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post #877562 post #633454 post #336041 post #554767 post #569118 post #620105
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Gen IV (winner: fire, loser: Gen IV)

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post #819949 post #863988 post #312427 post #369436 post #651375
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Gen V (winner: grass snakes)

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post #762777 post #805144 post #382511 post #367507 post #452689 post #848059
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Gen VI (winner: fire, honorable mention: greninja)

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post #672861 post #611805 post #694443 post #450265 post #379597 post #465255
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Gen VII (winner: ???)

it's litten though

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Litten may be getting most of the art, but avante92 has blessed rowlet and lonbluewolf has given popplio a fighting chance.

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litten all day

So, the picture thing... Does this mean we now have a sequel to Pokemon Snap?

Furrin_Gok said:
So, the picture thing... Does this mean we now have a sequel to Pokemon Snap?

Not as fleshed-out as I'd've liked, but it's better than the nothing we had

Rontio said:
Not as fleshed-out as I'd've liked, but it's better than the nothing we had

As much as I would love to just have a region like in Ranger where you can explore freely and take pictures of any pokemon you want in the areas you have access to, it kind of makes sense to restrict where to snap and what you can. A little more restrictive than the original game, but it's something at least.

Well, we got the Second stages of the starters, plus some new minigames and a new online play zone (Hopefully, this one doesn't die off like the old one from Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum).
Dartrix is the evolved form of Rowlet, Torracat of Litten, and Brionne of Popplio.

"Trainer Pokemon" is apparently an official thing... With a very lame gimick: It's only for Greninja, and instead of you, it's Ash-Greninja. It may thankfully only be a reward for playing the demo version, which I really hope is the case, because I hate the idea of having an official, not-canon character be the base for Trainer-forms (Ash is only from the Anime, not the games!).

Furrin_Gok said:
Well, we got the Second stages of the starters, plus some new minigames and a new online play zone (Hopefully, this one doesn't die off like the old one from Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum).
Dartrix is the evolved form of Rowlet, Torracat of Litten, and Brionne of Popplio.

I am so, so, so goddang worried that Popplio's final form is going to end up a mermaid of some sort. Please, anything but that! Brionne is reasonably cute but does not inspire confidence for a final evolution... like, at all.

Rowlet is remaining cute, at least.

"Trainer Pokemon" is apparently an official thing... With a very lame gimick: It's only for Greninja, and instead of you, it's Ash-Greninja. It may thankfully only be a reward for playing the demo version, which I really hope is the case, because I hate the idea of having an official, not-canon character be the base for Trainer-forms (Ash is only from the Anime, not the games!).

Oh lord no.

I hated - and I really do mean I absolutely detested - when they made Pikachu call its own name in the games. This... This might be even worse. I'm not sure. It's bad though.

Clawdragons said:
I hated - and I really do mean I absolutely detested - when they made Pikachu call its own name in the games. This... This might be even worse. I'm not sure. It's bad though.

I mean they already did that in Pokemon Yellow. though i fully agree that this stand-like Pokemon concept is stupid. Its like they try to turn it into Jojo

Mighyenta said:
I mean they already did that in Pokemon Yellow. though i fully agree that this stand-like Pokemon concept is stupid. Its like they try to turn it into Jojo

Pokemon Yellow was actually based on the plot of the anime, for one, and for another it was when Pokemon was just starting out and trying to figure out what direction it was going to go in... And perhaps most importantly, that trend did not remain for future games.

Point being, it's not like I liked it that much in Pokemon Yellow, but it gets a bit more of a pass than these more recent things.

Clawdragons said:
Pokemon Yellow was actually based on the plot of the anime, for one, and for another it was when Pokemon was just starting out and trying to figure out what direction it was going to go in... And perhaps most importantly, that trend did not remain for future games.

Point being, it's not like I liked it that much in Pokemon Yellow, but it gets a bit more of a pass than these more recent things.

Luckily its only Pikachu recieving that weird anime treatement. I wouldnt take Pokemon with threatening looks serious if they spout their own stupid names.

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/176/956/929.jpg

So far pretty much every aspect of this game seems promising, also if the song that was in that trailer is one of the tracks in the game, good god this OST is gonna be legendary.

Clawdragons said:
I am so, so, so goddang worried that Popplio's final form is going to end up a mermaid of some sort. Please, anything but that! Brionne is reasonably cute but does not inspire confidence for a final evolution... like, at all.

Rowlet is remaining cute, at least.

Unfortunately (for you) this reveal pretty much confirms the leaks from a while back, so SIREN HYPE!

SirBrownBear said:
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/176/956/929.jpg

So far pretty much every aspect of this game seems promising, also if the song that was in that trailer is one of the tracks in the game, good god this OST is gonna be legendary.

I am still worried about the chararcter custimization. I really hope it wont be like XY that males get like so few clothing options and hair styles. which is bullshit

SirBrownBear said:
Unfortunately (for you) this reveal pretty much confirms the leaks from a while back, so SIREN HYPE!

I'm going to hold out hope that that's not the case.

Honestly not even because of Popplio's evolution (though that is ugly to me), but I'm sick of the fire Evolutions ending up fire/fighting, which is what that one looks like it will be.

Honestly why can't we have a fire starter end up quadrupedal?

Mighyenta said:
I am still worried about the character customization. I really hope it wont be as XY that males get like so few clothing options and hair styles. which is bullshit

You and me both... Honestly I could live with the clothes, what I found most infuriating were the 4 hairstyles for guys (with only 2 being halfway decent) vs 12 for girls. Also apparently Pokebank won't be up and running for a few months after release, so that's a bit of a bummer.

Clawdragons said:
Honestly why can't we have a fire starter end up quadrupedal?

Same reason why they make some of us soft reset a million times to get a female starter (I know it's so you can't breed the starter right off the bat, but still), we weren't meant to have nice things.

But hey, we finally get to take off those stupid hats, so that's a pretty big win in my books.

SirBrownBear said:
You and me both... Honestly I could live with the clothes, what I found most infuriating were the 4 hairstyles for guys (with only 2 being halfway decent) vs 12 for girls.

Also having to unlock certain hairstyles were also kinda bullshit

Mighyenta said:
Also having to unlock certain hairstyles were also kinda bullshit

You guys are making me glad I decided to play as a girl.

Clawdragons said:
You guys are making me glad I decided to play as a girl.

I tried playing as a girl, but i was constantly bothered by people on GTS who wanted to battle or trade. More then i was playing as a guy. Also that hair unlocking is much more bothersome as a girl. Since their special unlockable hair looks so great

It's looking like the final stage for Litten might actually be Fire/Dark, not Fire/Fighting. Really hoping they're smart enough to do that.

As for unlockable customizations: What's so bad about that? To me, it sounds like a great idea: You shouldn't get everything at the start.

Furrin_Gok said:

As for unlockable customizations: What's so bad about that? To me, it sounds like a great idea: You shouldn't get everything at the start.

But like its incredibly vague about how you obtain them. Which is weird since the game is usually very straight forward with giving information (except things like IV's). I would've like it to be like the way you unlock applications in gen 4 when you beat gym's.