Topic: Question/Suggestion: Tagging number on multiple_*

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

A question on tagging multiple_scenes and multiple_images images. Should each sub-image be treated individually for purpose of tagging solo, duo, solo_focus, etc? Or should they be aggregated?

An example, post #560063

This was, previously, tagged as both solo and duo. Based on the wording of the Solo wiki page, it seems obvious that solo would not apply to this image, due to the cock in the lower right. But based on this forum post , especially Admin parasprite's statement, it would seem this image deserves both solo and duo.

I'd like clarification, and I'd also like to suggest that the wording on the solo, duo, group, solo_focus, and duo_focus wiki pages be changed to indicate how they should be used in the case of multiple subimages.

Also an apology, I removed a few (perhaps 10) solo tags before looking deeper into what the convention was, but I know which images and can replace them if necessary depending on the resolution to my question.

Below are some examples of inconsistent tagging of multiple_images

solo AND duo with solo/duo subimages post #856132 post #678086 post #542204
group with solo/duo subimages post #603804 post #574192

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Fillyosopher said:
A question on tagging multiple_scenes and multiple_images images. Should each sub-image be treated individually for purpose of tagging solo, duo, solo_focus, etc? Or should they be aggregated?

Each image should be analyzed individually, unless exists a causal relation (comic or sequence), in this case the information brought by one image should be considered on the general analysis.

Fillyosopher said:
I'd like clarification, and I'd also like to suggest that the wording on the solo, duo, group, solo_focus, and duo_focus wiki pages be changed to indicate how they should be used in the case of multiple subimages.

I agree, and would like to do so.

Fillyosopher said:
Also an apology, I removed a few (perhaps 10) solo tags before looking deeper into what the convention was, but I know which images and can replace them if necessary depending on the resolution to my question.

Everyone make mistakes, I already did worse (quite ashamed right now). At least you asked for help.

post #560063 solo + duo + solo_focus

post #856132 solo + duo + solo_foucus

post #678086 solo + duo

post #542204 group + solo_focus (but not solo)

post #603804 solo

post #574192 solo + duo + group + solo_focus

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O16 said:
post #603804 solo

post #574192 solo + duo + group + solo_focus

I do not understand. We have several figures, which are partly there individually but just at example one, are still 3 different single figures. If I look for solo, why should then come as a picture where 3 different figures are + their evolutions = 9. For 1 figure + their evolution, I would still be able to understand, since the evolutionary are still the same figure. With the 2 picture it is even more extreme.

German - Deutsch

Die verstehe ich nicht. Wir haben mehrere Figuren, welche zwar teils einzeln da sind doch gerade bei Beispiel eins, dennoch 3 verschiedene Einzelfiguren sind. Wenn ich nach solo suche, wieso sollte dann so ein Bild kommen wo 3 verschiedene Figuren sind + deren Evolutionen = 9. Bei 1 Figur + deren Evolutionen würde ich das noch verstehen können, da die Evolutionen ja immer noch die selbe Figur sind. Beim 2 Bild ist es noch extremer.

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PlüschTiger said:
I do not understand. We have several figures, which are partly there individually but just at example one, are still 3 different single figures. If I look for solo, why should then come as a picture where 3 different figures are + their evolutions = 9. For 1 figure + their evolution, I would still be able to understand, since the evolutionary are still the same figure. With the 2 picture it is even more extreme.

post #603804

There is nothing telling me that these characters are in a same location, since there is no ambient and no interaction between them.

post #574192

Upper left corner = duo
Lower left corner = group + solo_focus
Upper center = duo
Lower center = solo
Upper right corner = duo
Lower right corner = duo

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O16 said:
post #603804

There is nothing telling me that these characters are in a same location, since there is no ambient and no interaction between them.

I know what you want to tell me, but if we take example 1, there are 3 different characters, each one solo. If you look at each one for itself, it is always only 1 character, but the whole picture is to be seen therefore I find the something confusing. Also because it makes no logical sense for me. The e621 rules may be right.

German - Deutsch

Ich weiß was du mir sagen willst, doch wenn wir Beispiel 1 nehmen, es sind und bleiben 3 verschiedene Charaktere, welche jedes solo ist. Wenn man jedes für sich betrachtet, ist es immer nur 1 Charakter, doch das ganze Bild ist zu sehen daher finde ich das etwas verwirrend. Auch weil es für mich kein logisch Sinn macht. Den e621 Regeln nach mag es Richtig sein.

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PlüschTiger said:
I know what you want to tell me, but if we take example 1, there are 3 different characters, each one solo. If you look at each one for itself, it is always only 1 character, but the whole picture is to be seen therefore I find the something confusing. Also because it makes no logical sense for me. The e621 rules may be right.

German - Deutsch

Ich weiß was du mir sagen willst, doch wenn wir Beispiel 1 nehmen, es sind und bleiben 3 verschiedene Charaktere, welche jedes solo ist. Wenn man jedes für sich betrachtet, ist es immer nur 1 Charakter, doch das ganze Bild ist zu sehen daher finde ich das etwas verwirrend. Auch weil es für mich kein logisch Sinn macht. Den e621 Regeln nach mag es Richtig sein.

Actually, the hands on his butt in the left portion make it a duo solo_focus for that specific bit. Only the other two portions are solo.

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Furrin_Gok said:
Actually, the hands on his butt in the left portion make it a duo solo_focus for that specific bit. Only the other two portions are solo.

Her hands aren't on her butt, but on her legs, and even if they are, it still solo because of the aforementioned reasons (if she is interacting with someone, this one is the viewer). Not intending to be rude, but you clicked on the thumbnail, didn't you?

PlüschTiger said:
I know what you want to tell me, but if we take example 1, there are 3 different characters, each one solo. If you look at each one for itself, it is always only 1 character, but the whole picture is to be seen therefore I find the something confusing. Also because it makes no logical sense for me. The e621 rules may be right.

German - Deutsch

Ich weiß was du mir sagen willst, doch wenn wir Beispiel 1 nehmen, es sind und bleiben 3 verschiedene Charaktere, welche jedes solo ist. Wenn man jedes für sich betrachtet, ist es immer nur 1 Charakter, doch das ganze Bild ist zu sehen daher finde ich das etwas verwirrend. Auch weil es für mich kein logisch Sinn macht. Den e621 Regeln nach mag es Richtig sein.

"Characters number" tags are used for one image at time, however one post may contain multiple images, thus, if someone wants to see posts showing only one image with only one character, this person should use solo -multiple_images -comic -sequence

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O16 said:
Her hands aren't on her butt, but on her legs, and even if they are, it still solo because of the aforementioned reasons (if she is interacting with someone, this one is the viewer). Not intending to be rude, but you clicked on the thumbnail, didn't you?

post #856132
That's not a "She," buddy. That's the image Plusch mentioned (The first example).

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Furrin_Gok said:
post #856132
That's not a "She," buddy. That's the image Plusch mentioned (The first example).

*Facepalm*

My sincere apologies. For some reason I thought you are talking about the bulbasaur at the 4th example.

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