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Topic: Types of anthroness. Let's make a working system!

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

Hello everyone!

So i did some research and stuff to figure out how could be the anthro tag be divided into smaller and more excat parts. first i tought about levels but now i realised it's much more than levels, the anthro types are depend or other tags. Here are the most important ones:

1. The structure of the legs.

These would be the almost most important tags.
humanoid_leg_structure (or something like this):

2016 accessory anthro belt biped black_nose blue_body blue_fur blue_hair bodysuit boots canid canine clothing dolphydolphiana english_text female footwear fox fur furgonomics gem green_eyes hair hair_accessory high_heeled_boots high_heels jewelry krystal_(star_fox) mammal nintendo plantigrade scarf shoes short_hair signature skinsuit smile solo star_fox tail tail_accessory tailband text tight_clothing white_body white_fur

non_human_leg_structure (-||-):

3:2 anthro belt benji_(artist) biped butt capcom clothing color_swatch digitigrade english_text fan_character featureless_crotch felid felyne flat_colors front_view gesture grin leaning leaning_backward looking_at_viewer lynian male mammal model_sheet monster_hunter naki_(character) rear_view signature smile solo standing text topwear vest waving whiskers
3_toes anthro anthrofied balls big_eyes big_head biped blush erection feet front_view frown fur generation_4_pokemon genitals gloves_(marking) green_body green_eyes green_fur green_hair hair hands_on_hips leg_markings legendary_pokemon long_ears looking_at_viewer male markings nintendo nude oob pattern_background penis pokemon pokemon_(species) pokemorph shaymin short_hair simple_background sky_forme_shaymin socks_(marking) solo standing star star-shaped_background toes toony white_body white_fur

2. Eye size and position

side_positioned_eyes (-||-):

3_toes 4_fingers animal_genitalia animal_penis anthro anus archived_source blush bodily_fluids chibi erection feet fingers genital_fluids genitals green_body hi_res kde konqi koopacoon lizard male mascot nude open_mouth pawpads penis precum reptile scalie scarf simple_background solo spiked_tail spikes spikes_(anatomy) tail tapering_penis toes upside_down white_background young young_anthro young_male

front_positioned_eyes (-||-):

2016 anthro big_breasts boss_monster_(undertale) bovid breasts caprine clothed clothing female fur hi_res huge_breasts mammal mature_anthro mature_female purple_eyes robe simple_background smile solo toriel undertale undertale_(series) white_body white_fur wide_hipped_female wide_hips zhengfox

and
big_eyes wich tag is very underused: The name says it all.

3. Nose/face shape

flat_face (-||-):

2016 anthro blush bottomwear bulge child cloak clothed clothing digital_media_(artwork) erection erection_under_clothing felid footwear genitals loincloth male mammal manmosu_marimo open_mouth penis shota simple_background solo standing weapon white_background young young_anthro

long_face (-||-):

anthro avoid_posting felid hi_res lady_kurai looking_at_viewer male mammal pantherine simple_background smile solo stripes teeth tiger

4. Hands and feets

humanoid_feet

animal_feet:

absurd_res anthro clitoris female genitals green_eyes hi_res lagomorph leporid lillablu-e loli mammal nude presenting presenting_pussy pussy rabbit solo young young_anthro zapa

humanoid_hand

animal_hand(-||-):

bodily_fluids chespin cpctail female generation_6_pokemon genital_fluids green_background hi_res masturbation nintendo pokemon pokemon_(species) semi-anthro simple_background solo vaginal vaginal_fluids vaginal_masturbation

If these tags would be implemented everywhere it would be possible to find specific types like:

2016 ambiguous_gender anthro bat big_ears blue_eyes bulge clothed clothing collar crossdressing digitigrade duo dust:_an_elysian_tail fan_character femboy flower flower_in_mouth fur grey_background guardian_spirit hair heart_symbol legwear male mammal membrane_(anatomy) membranous_wings microsoft nero_the_nimbat nimbat ori_(series) panties paws_in_socks pink_eyes plant purple_body purple_fur purple_hair rose_(flower) rose_in_mouth simple_background stockings underwear undressing unknown_species warden006 wardy white_body white_fur white_hair wings xbox_game_studios
1:1 2016 after_sex aliasing anthro blue_eyes digital_media_(artwork) female frown horn kobold nude reptile scalie solo spaffy trout_(artist)
2016 amber_eyes anthro bare_shoulders belly big_breasts biped black_nose blonde_hair bottomless bracelet breasts butt camel_toe cheek_tuft cheetah claws cleavage clothed clothing countershading cute_fangs dress electronics facial_tuft fangs felid feline female fur furniture hair headphones inside jewelry long_hair looking_at_viewer lying mammal mihari orange_body orange_fur panties pawpads paws phuufy smile sofa solo spots teeth toe_claws tuft underwear white_belly white_body white_fur yellow_body yellow_eyes yellow_fur

3_toes 4_fingers animal_genitalia animal_penis anthro balls barefoot big_eyes big_head biped black_eyes breath brown_body brown_fur canid canine canis casual_exposure clothed clothing domestic_dog feet fingers fist fur genitals grin male mammal mostly_nude oob pawpads penis penis_tip pink_pawpads pupils scarf sheath simple_background smile solo toes toony walking white_background white_pupils
anal anal_penetration animal_genitalia animal_penis anthro balls barefoot biped blush bodily_fluids detailed_background embarrassed eraquis erection feet genital_fluids genitals gnar_(lol) hi_res league_of_legends male mammal nude open_mouth outside penetration penis precum riot_games secretly_loves_it sharp_teeth sheath signature solo struggling tapering_penis teeth tencent tentacles tusks yordle young young_anthro
abstract_background anthro biped blue_eyes canid canine canis claws collar domestic_dog feet hi_res hindpaw iztli male mammal nude paws sitting solo toe_claws

Not like now, where every type is mixed.
Here is my excel workseet where i tried to create a anthroness level scoreing system, this forum thread is based on it. Here you can find it.

I think it's worth a look( you don't have to download it the google drive has a excel preview.)I hope i was understandable

Updated by Peekaboo

I don't really agree with anything you posted except that big_eyes isn't tagged as much as it should be.

Updated by anonymous

For the legs there are already tags: digitigrade (for creatures who walk on their digits, such as cats and dogs), and plantigrade (for those that walk on their soles, such as humans and bears--elephants are semi-plantigrade). Horses, deer, sheep, etc, that walk on the tips of their toes are unguligrade, but I don't know if there is a tag for that. I am fond of these tags because I love anatomy :3

For the faces I suppose we could use flat_face when it applies and leave the rest blank by default.

The eye position tags seem superfluous and obscure, though big_eyes is definitely underused. We already have hair for characters who have hair separate from their coat, and tags for toe and finger count.

Other than that, I agree with Peekaboo.

Updated by anonymous

Genjar

Former Staff
2011 annoyed antennae_(anatomy) arthropod biped black_markings blessed_image blue_eyes bottomwear clothed clothing crossed_arms daww digital_media_(artwork) digital_painting_(artwork) digital_watercolor_(artwork) duo feral front_view green_body hawk_moth human insect insect_wings lepidopteran lifting lol_comments male mammal markings moth nisimawari pellucid_hawk_moth portrait quadruped shirt shorts simple_background simulated_traditional_(artwork) solo_focus spread_wings standing three-quarter_portrait three-quarter_view topwear white_background wings

Long ago, someone tried to create a handpaw tag for non-human hands, but that never caught on.

Some of the weirder 'hand' types might be worth tagging, though. Such as the hoof-hands that anthro ponies sometimes have:

2014 accessory aloe_(mlp) anthro average-hanzo blue_body blue_eyes blue_fur blue_hair cutie_mark duo earth_pony equid equine featureless_crotch female friendship_is_magic fur hair hasbro headband horse lotus_(mlp) mammal my_little_pony pink_body pink_fur pink_hair pony semi-anthro sibling_(lore)

Updated by anonymous

Peekaboo said:
I don't really agree with anything you posted except that big_eyes isn't tagged as much as it should be.

Well if you don't agreed that's not a problem but then suggest a system that you do agree with. Give me suggestions because these anthro types needs to be destinguished, cause they are clearly different, we can't say that they look the same cause they aren't look the same.

So to all of you you can shrug it of with" i don't agree" but than suggest a better system if you can. Come on!

Let's make a tagging system that everyone agrees with!

Updated by anonymous

Aeruginis said:
For the legs there are already tags: digitigrade (for creatures who walk on their digits, such as cats and dogs), and plantigrade (for those that walk on their soles, such as humans and bears--elephants are semi-plantigrade). Horses, deer, sheep, etc, that walk on the tips of their toes are unguligrade, but I don't know if there is a tag for that. I am fond of these tags because I love anatomy :3

Thank's those leg type tags looks useful.

Updated by anonymous

*grade terms make sense (ie. describe a large distinct variation) but they are a bit technical, and IMO this is a major reason they are undertagged. Not sure how we can improve this.

I think big_eyes is probably a bad tag, in that most of the stuff it is applied to would be better described as cartoon_eyes (ie. exaggerated eyes). post #893585 is one of the few cases that actually has big eyes that are big in a literal sense, not just because they're exaggerated.

Eye position:
Those are monocular and binocular vision respectively. But these are possibly confusing terms (as monocular means using each eye separately, rather than having one eye)

I disagree with the examples of section 3; they don't appear to depict examples of the terms you specify.

I think there is some desire to make animal_feet searchable, and your example is good.

I consider your animal_hand example ambiguous, and also wonder how much it would overlap with claws (which admittedly is NOT restricted to hands). I can only see someone searching this in the case of realist art where the structure of the hand is quite clear.

Updated by anonymous

Genjar

Former Staff
2011 annoyed antennae_(anatomy) arthropod biped black_markings blessed_image blue_eyes bottomwear clothed clothing crossed_arms daww digital_media_(artwork) digital_painting_(artwork) digital_watercolor_(artwork) duo feral front_view green_body hawk_moth human insect insect_wings lepidopteran lifting lol_comments male mammal markings moth nisimawari pellucid_hawk_moth portrait quadruped shirt shorts simple_background simulated_traditional_(artwork) solo_focus spread_wings standing three-quarter_portrait three-quarter_view topwear white_background wings

savageorange said:
I think there is some desire to make animal_feet searchable, and your example is good.

Isn't that already searchable with hindpaw?

Updated by anonymous

Genjar said:
Isn't that already searchable with hindpaw?

Nah, not really as those are purely for visible palms and soles/pawpads.

Updated by anonymous

Genjar

Former Staff
2011 annoyed antennae_(anatomy) arthropod biped black_markings blessed_image blue_eyes bottomwear clothed clothing crossed_arms daww digital_media_(artwork) digital_painting_(artwork) digital_watercolor_(artwork) duo feral front_view green_body hawk_moth human insect insect_wings lepidopteran lifting lol_comments male mammal markings moth nisimawari pellucid_hawk_moth portrait quadruped shirt shorts simple_background simulated_traditional_(artwork) solo_focus spread_wings standing three-quarter_portrait three-quarter_view topwear white_background wings

Jugofthat said:
Nah, not really as those are purely for visible palms and soles/pawpads.

Are you sure about that? It's tagged for a whole of posts where those aren't visible, and the wiki doesn't mention it.

Based on the forum, the feet tags were originally split to humanoid_feet for non-animals and hindpaw for animals. And the latter don't seem to have been discussed since then.

Updated by anonymous

Ratte

Former Staff
2023 4_toes alpha_channel anthro barefoot beyle border brown_hair canid canine canis carrying_another claws clothed clothing conditional_dnp coyote digital_drawing_(artwork) digital_media_(artwork) duo faraden feet female fluffy fox fully_clothed hair hi_res hoodie hybrid jacket kasai_(coyote) leaf legacy_(ratte) long_hair male mammal new_faraden on_shoulders open_mouth outside paws plant plantigrade ratte red_fox red_hair short_hair signature smile text toe_claws toes topwear traditional_media_(artwork) transparent_border tree true_fox twig url yellow_eyes

>humanoid_leg_structure
Plantigrade.

>non_human_leg_structure
Digitigrade or unguligrade depending on the foot.

>long_face
That's, uh, normal.

>animal_hand
Handpaws or hooves.

Updated by anonymous

Ratte said:
>long_face
That's, uh, normal.

The distinction they are trying to draw can be seen between these two images.

2016 anthro arcanine areola big_breasts bodily_fluids breast_size_difference breasts canid canine canis curvy_figure domestic_dog dripping drooling eeveelution fangs female female/female flareon fox fur generation_1_pokemon genital_fluids genitals grinding group group_sex hand_on_butt hand_on_hip inner_ear_fluff licking mammal multi_tail navel neck_tuft ninetales nintendo nipples nude open_mouth pokemon pokemon_(species) pussy red_eyes saliva sex simple_background spunkubus tail teeth thick_thighs threesome tongue tongue_out trio tuft vaginal_fluids voluptuous wide_hips
2016 anal anal_penetration anthro anthrofied antlers arcanine ass_up barefoot biceps big_muscles black_body black_fur black_nose bodily_fluids butt canid canine claws clenched_teeth cum cum_in_ass cum_inside dowski duo erection eyes_closed fan_character fangs feet felid fluffy fluffy_tail fur generation_1_pokemon genital_fluids genitals horn hybrid interspecies knot kyros_(dowski) lying maldu male male/male male_penetrated male_penetrating male_penetrating_male mammal muscular muscular_male neck_tuft nintendo nude on_back on_ground orange_body orange_fur pantherine penetration penis pokemon pokemon_(species) pokemorph sex shadow simple_background standing stripes sweat tail teeth toe_claws tuft white_background white_body white_fur

Basically snout (which is ridiculously undertagged), compared to an otherwise much more flat and human-like face.

Updated by anonymous

Ratte

Former Staff
2023 4_toes alpha_channel anthro barefoot beyle border brown_hair canid canine canis carrying_another claws clothed clothing conditional_dnp coyote digital_drawing_(artwork) digital_media_(artwork) duo faraden feet female fluffy fox fully_clothed hair hi_res hoodie hybrid jacket kasai_(coyote) leaf legacy_(ratte) long_hair male mammal new_faraden on_shoulders open_mouth outside paws plant plantigrade ratte red_fox red_hair short_hair signature smile text toe_claws toes topwear traditional_media_(artwork) transparent_border tree true_fox twig url yellow_eyes

Clawdragons said:
Basically snout (which is ridiculously undertagged), compared to an otherwise much more flat and human-like face.

It would make more sense to tag the latter.

Updated by anonymous

Ratte said:
It would make more sense to tag the latter.

Wouldn't hurt to tag snouts though.

Updated by anonymous

Ratte

Former Staff
2023 4_toes alpha_channel anthro barefoot beyle border brown_hair canid canine canis carrying_another claws clothed clothing conditional_dnp coyote digital_drawing_(artwork) digital_media_(artwork) duo faraden feet female fluffy fox fully_clothed hair hi_res hoodie hybrid jacket kasai_(coyote) leaf legacy_(ratte) long_hair male mammal new_faraden on_shoulders open_mouth outside paws plant plantigrade ratte red_fox red_hair short_hair signature smile text toe_claws toes topwear traditional_media_(artwork) transparent_border tree true_fox twig url yellow_eyes

Furrin_Gok said:
Wouldn't hurt to tag snouts though.

I don't think that would be too helpful if it's a normal trait for the species. It would be like tagging white scleras.

Updated by anonymous

Ratte said:
I don't think that would be too helpful if it's a normal trait for the species. It would be like tagging white scleras.

Uuuuugh I forgot about that. Okay, only tag snouts when it's not normal for the species/character, got it.

Updated by anonymous

Ratte said:
It would make more sense to tag the latter.

I agree. I wasn't saying snout was useful - if anything, how inconsistently it is tagged takes away from its already marginal usefulness.

Updated by anonymous

Ratte

Former Staff
2023 4_toes alpha_channel anthro barefoot beyle border brown_hair canid canine canis carrying_another claws clothed clothing conditional_dnp coyote digital_drawing_(artwork) digital_media_(artwork) duo faraden feet female fluffy fox fully_clothed hair hi_res hoodie hybrid jacket kasai_(coyote) leaf legacy_(ratte) long_hair male mammal new_faraden on_shoulders open_mouth outside paws plant plantigrade ratte red_fox red_hair short_hair signature smile text toe_claws toes topwear traditional_media_(artwork) transparent_border tree true_fox twig url yellow_eyes

Furrin_Gok said:
Uuuuugh I forgot about that. Okay, only tag snouts when it's not normal for the species/character, got it.

I did not mean to come across poorly. I apologize.

Clawdragons said:
I agree. I wasn't saying snout was useful - if anything, how inconsistently it is tagged takes away from its already marginal usefulness.

There will always be some limit to usefulness when tagging. Something like this seems kind of...too arbitrary to have much use. Maybe it's just me.

Updated by anonymous

Ratte said:
There will always be some limit to usefulness when tagging. Something like this seems kind of...too arbitrary to have much use. Maybe it's just me.

I do think a "humanlike face" tag would be very handy though. I would, personally, at least strongly consider using it, if for no other reason than to assist my blacklist.

Updated by anonymous

Clawdragons said:
I do think a "humanlike face" tag would be very handy though. I would, personally, at least strongly consider using it, if for no other reason than to assist my blacklist.

tho it might be difficult to determinate what counts as human like face what doesnt. like here

2016 anthro black_text blue_text brother_(lore) brothers_(lore) brown_hair canid canine celio_(peritian) clothed clothing color_coded color_coded_text comic conjoined_speech_bubble conjoined_thought_bubble curved_text dialogue domestic_cat emanata english_text eyes_closed felid feline felis fur hair hi_res inner_monologue low-angle_view male mammal necktie nightclub number page_number peritian purple_text question_mark siamese sibling_(lore) speech_bubble text thinking thought_bubble url

like it could be stylished cat face or human like face

Updated by anonymous

Ratte said:
I did not mean to come across poorly. I apologize.

What? I just don't like seeing White_sclera renamon show false positives because people tag the perfectly normal white sclera of other characters. I actually love the idea of tagging it only where it's unusual.

Updated by anonymous

Genjar

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2011 annoyed antennae_(anatomy) arthropod biped black_markings blessed_image blue_eyes bottomwear clothed clothing crossed_arms daww digital_media_(artwork) digital_painting_(artwork) digital_watercolor_(artwork) duo feral front_view green_body hawk_moth human insect insect_wings lepidopteran lifting lol_comments male mammal markings moth nisimawari pellucid_hawk_moth portrait quadruped shirt shorts simple_background simulated_traditional_(artwork) solo_focus spread_wings standing three-quarter_portrait three-quarter_view topwear white_background wings

Clawdragons said:
I do think a "humanlike face" tag would be very handy though. I would, personally, at least strongly consider using it, if for no other reason than to assist my blacklist.

Would humanoid_face work, or should it be something that's specifically only tagged for anthros?

Mutisija makes a good point, though: it'd be quite difficult to actually tag.

Updated by anonymous

So let's try to get to a conclusion. So what should i tag then?

Updated by anonymous

Mutisija said:
tho it might be difficult to determinate what counts as human like face what doesnt. like here

2016 anthro black_text blue_text brother_(lore) brothers_(lore) brown_hair canid canine celio_(peritian) clothed clothing color_coded color_coded_text comic conjoined_speech_bubble conjoined_thought_bubble curved_text dialogue domestic_cat emanata english_text eyes_closed felid feline felis fur hair hi_res inner_monologue low-angle_view male mammal necktie nightclub number page_number peritian purple_text question_mark siamese sibling_(lore) speech_bubble text thinking thought_bubble url

like it could be stylished cat face or human like face

See now that one seems clearly humanlike, at not just a sylized cat face. Look at the chin, for one, which is clearly human in structure. Really the only thing that is catlike there is the nose, but even then there's no muzzle/snout that protrudes along with it.

I'm sure there are some grey areas, but even if there's some blurred lines for what counts when tagging it in some cases, I think it would still have value.

Genjar said:
Would humanoid_face work, or should it be something that's specifically only tagged for anthros?

I don't see why it wouldn't be fine to include it for both anthros and others.

Unrelated to that, I think Absol would get hit pretty hard with this one.

Updated by anonymous

Hexdragon said:
So let's try to get to a conclusion. So what should i tag then?

Ratte said:
>humanoid_leg_structure
Plantigrade.

>non_human_leg_structure
Digitigrade or unguligrade depending on the foot.

>long_face
That's, uh, normal.

>animal_hand
Handpaws or hooves.

For the others, there has been some suggestions. Going through the Tags should give you a good idea for which tags fit the adjective you're trying to tag.

Updated by anonymous

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