Topic: Let's talk primates

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

Yay monkeys. Hugely popular with furries and eh...hmm...

Well anyways, I was going through the species wikis and I happened to notice that the primate wikis and implications in particular are somewhat of a mess. I don't really blame anyone for this as thier taxonomy is extremely confusing even for taxonomists.

Here's a TLDR of how they are usually laid out taxonomically:

  • mammal
    • Primate
      • Lesser apes
        • gibbon (none tagged)
      • Greater apes
        • chimpanzee
          • bonobo
        • gorilla
        • human
        • orangutan
      • Old-world monkey
        • baboon
        • macaque (none tagged)
      • New-world monkeys
        • howler monkey
        • marmoset
        • spider monkey
        • squirrel monkey
        • tamarin
      • Tarsiers
      • Lemurs

Which almost looks good by itself. However, I doubt there is much value in splitting monkey and ape into two categories each, particularly when most people can't tell the difference anyways and would just as easily tag them all as a generic monkey/primate, unless they happened to know a more specific species (e.g., baboon).

Here are my thoughts on how this might be simplified for tagging purposes:

Needs implication

Another alternative might be to alias ape and/or monkey directly to primate and just use primate as the catch-all monkey/ape/etc. grouping. I think this would work better for ape than monkey, but both options may be worth considering.

Thoughts?

Updated

Looks good!

This just makes me wonder whether or not humans should be listed under primates. It makes sense since that is what we are, but when people search for primates they probably aren't looking for humans.

Just a thought.

Updated by anonymous

Sneaky said:
This just makes me wonder whether or not humans should be listed under primates. It makes sense since that is what we are, but when people search for primates they probably aren't looking for humans.

Leaving the implication off is probably preferable. ~54000 human posts would overwhelm the ~3400 tagged primate (and absolutely swamp the ~550 tagged ape).

However, I don't see anything wrong with categorizing them that way in the wiki as long as we keep a small note on there to clarify usage so it doesn't look like it contradicts how they are really used.

Super_Hornet said:
My contribution to this topic

Perfect.

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