Topic: Stances & Poses

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

I was cleaning up the pinup tag, trying to find a specific pose, when I noticed that stances/poses are really undertagged. I'm currently working on fixing that issue, but wanted to discuss/make proper wiki articles to explain the different stances and such. There's a list under tag group:pose, but not all of them are expanded upon in the wiki (and the list itself feels a bit outdated, with some alias'd terms still there). There are some I can't name, which I'll ask about at the end.

Stances!

Standing

When a character is standing upright on their feet. Feet don't necessarily have to be visible in an image to appear as if they're standing.
post #720077 post #720024 post #720016

Step pose (Captain Morgan pose) (implies standing)

(This tag needs cleanup, as some posts in here should be tagged with what appears to be the Jockey Sex Position, perhaps a modified variant of it. Or kneeling / on_one_knee + bent over, since some characters aren't visibly standing in here. There are also feral/quad characters on their hind legs, and it's just... a mess.)

When a character is standing upright on their feet, with one elevated on a higher surface. Not to be confused with on one leg.
post #550509 post #713559 post #561849

On one leg (implies standing)

When a character is standing upright on one foot, with the other lifted or missing from view. Not to be confused with step pose.
post #719987 post #707320 post #696853

Standing kneel (implies standing and possibly on one knee/on one leg)

When a character is standing on one leg, with the other leg resting (kneeling) on a piece of furniture or object.
post #720358 post #705655

On hind legs

When a quadruped character stands upright on their hind legs. Rearing is always on_hind_legs, but on_hind_legs is not always rearing.
post #663476 post #599518 post #597867

Rearing (implies on hind legs)

post #640013 post #637615 post #589963

Crouching / Squatting

(Needs cleanup, some kneeling / on one knee posts in here.)

When a character rests on their feet, legs bent at the knees. Not to be confused with kneeling, which is when their knees make contact with the ground.
post #717560 post #716921 post #712515

Kneeling

When a character rests on their knees, legs bent. Not to be confused with crouching, which is when their knees do not make contact with the ground.
post #720234 post #719970 post #718562

On one knee / Half-kneel (implies kneeling)

When a character kneels with one knee and one foot on the ground.
post #636557 post #601255 post #555770

All fours (Doggystyle when sex is involved)

When a (typically non-quadrupedal) character rests their hands on the ground, supporting themselves on their hands and knees/feet.
post #720000 post #720048 post #719317

Lying

(Needs cleanup, lots of reclining posts in here.)

When a character is lying down, (most of the time) horizontal and supported along their length by the surface underneath.
post #719355 post #719925 post #719683

Reclining

When a character is sitting with a slight recline to their stance. A kind of halfway point between lying and sitting, with their weight usually supported by objects or their arms.
post #719059 post #718236 post #712940

Sitting

(Needs cleanup, lots of reclining and some crouching posts in here.)

When a character is seated on their butt or thighs, with their torso mostly upright.
post #719547 post #720020 post #719842

Stance... Modifiers?

Ass up

(Can be combined with lying, kneeling, and standing.)

post #719350 post #719849 post #685808

Bent back / Leaning back

(Can be combined with reclining, kneeling, and standing.)

Bent over / Leaning forward

(Can be combined with sitting, kneeling, and standing.)

On back

(Can be combined with lying and reclining.)

On front

(Can be combined with lying and reclining.)

On side

(Can be combined with lying and reclining.)

On shoulders

(Can be combined with lying.)

Spread eagle (implies or alias'd to spread_legs?)

(Can be combined with lying, kneeling, crouching, reclining, and sitting.)

Unknown Poses

None right now!

I also want to make an ambiguous pose tag for art where the pose isn't entirely clear, but I'm not sure how useful it would be.

I'll edit this post more as I think of stuff/receive feedback and suggestions (also to add more thumbnail examples as I need a break for now).

Updated by BlueDingo

I think the main reason poses are so under tagged is because there isn't a simple guide with examples in the wiki. This thread has already helped me with tagging a few posts because I wasn't clear on some of the distinctions between poses before.

I always have trouble deciding what pose to tag on ferals that aren't standing or sitting so it'd be cool if we could clear that up and put it in the wiki.

As for that unknown pose, maybe standing_kneel?

Updated by anonymous

That unidentified pose may be a combination of 3 different tags.

  • Presenting_pussy (Although there is no nudity)
  • Shirt_lift
  • Tree_pose (I would identify it as this, but her arms aren't straight up in the air.)

Altogether, I'm a bit confused as well, but it would seem entirely possible that such a pose has no name to begin with.

Also, it wouldn't surprise me if this thread sparks a JJBA thread. However unlikely.

Updated by anonymous

Kida said:
I was cleaning up the pinup tag, trying to find a specific pose, when I noticed that stances/poses are really undertagged. I'm currently working on fixing that issue, but wanted to discuss/make proper wiki articles to explain the different stances and such. There's a list under tag group:pose, but not all of them are expanded upon in the wiki (and the list itself feels a bit outdated, with some alias'd terms still there). There are some I can't name, which I'll ask about at the end.

I'm pretty much the only one who cares/edits the wiki poses page. I try to keep up with my findings (i.e. I recently swapped standing_on_one_foot for on_one_leg), but yeah I'm not perfect and I'm not aware of all the aliases (I've made a few suggestions related to it too). I'd love to get some help keeping it properly updated.

The leaning_back/Bent_back distinction is indeed probably inappropriate. I was going off the wiki description that implies leaning must be leaning against something.

spread_eagle is very often a--undertagged--specific bondage position (post #686828, post #646870, post #628137, post #341543 etc.), so a merger with spread_legs is definitely not an option.

Whatever happened to the pics tagged with crab_walk? I mean, what do you tag post #77816??

Kida said:
post #705655
I want to call this one "half-kneel", but a google search shows that to be this, which resembles on one knee more. Perhaps it could fall under on one leg?

I also want to make an ambiguous pose tag for art where the pose isn't entirely clear, but I'm not sure how useful it would be.

The first one I'm fine with on_one_leg for it, and the three others are standing (with pin-up too in the case of the second one), or even not tagging these three at all. It's not THAT big a deal.

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Genjar

Former Staff

Circeus said:
Whatever happened to the pics tagged with crab_walk? I mean, what do you tag post #77816??

I can't think of a better term for that. So I dunno why it was wiped. Just because it had a low tag count doesn't mean that it's not useful.

Updated by anonymous

purple.beastie said:
I think the main reason poses are so under tagged is because there isn't a simple guide with examples in the wiki. This thread has already helped me with tagging a few posts because I wasn't clear on some of the distinctions between poses before.

I always have trouble deciding what pose to tag on ferals that aren't standing or sitting so it'd be cool if we could clear that up and put it in the wiki.

As for that unknown pose, maybe standing_kneel?

Glad the post could help! Could you provide some examples for that situation with the ferals? It is kinda tricky to think of their stances compared to anthro characters.

Standing_kneel sounds pretty good, and that could imply on_one_leg.

Hibachi said:

  • Tree_pose (I would identify it as this, but her arms aren't straight up in the air.)

Hmm... It would seem tree pose doesn't exist as a thing on e6, probably got lumped in with on one leg.

Circeus said:
I'm pretty much the only one who cares/edits the wiki poses page. I try to keep up with my findings (i.e. I recently swapped standing_on_one_foot for on_one_leg), but yeah I'm not perfect and I'm not aware of all the aliases (I've made a few suggestions related to it too). I'd love to get some help keeping it properly updated.

I'd be glad to help out! I just work better with explanations + example images, which is why I started the thread. I used your list to grab most of the above, though. :3

Circeus said:
The leaning_back/Bent_back distinction is indeed probably inappropriate. I was going off the wiki description that implies leaning must be leaning against something.

I lumped them together because, when picturing it mentally, they just seemed to be the same thing (or at least, one would imply the other). Leaning can involve an object/furniture piece/wall while bending doesn't, though!

Circeus said:
spread_eagle is very often a--undertagged--specific bondage position (post #686828, post #646870, post #628137, post #341543 etc.), so a merger with spread_legs is definitely not an option.

*sighs* My lack of bondage-related knowledge strikes again. I'm too vanilla for this.

Circeus said:
Whatever happened to the pics tagged with crab_walk? I mean, what do you tag post #77816??

No idea who got rid of the tag! It seems like a perfectly valid tag, even if it's not popular in terms of art. (Agreeing with Genjar here)

Circeus said:
The first one I'm fine with on_one_leg for it, and the three others are standing (with pin-up too in the case of the second one), or even not tagging these three at all. It's not THAT big a deal.

Eh, it's useful to have some kind of stance involved, in my opinion! I was using a specific search to try and find the picture/pose I was looking for (was a kneeling female character), since it didn't seem to be tagged with kneeling. So I was using this search to go through and add untagged stances: pinup -lying -kneeling -sitting -reclining -standing Which is my reason for wanting some kind of pose/stance tag on images, haha.

Edit: Changed all fours to not imply kneeling, as there's some posts where the character is standing + ass up with their hands on the ground.

Updated by anonymous

Kida said:
Could you provide some examples for that situation with the ferals? It is kinda tricky to think of their stances compared to anthro characters.

Sure, here's a bunch.

Are both of these crouching?
post #223826 post #674045

ass_up + on_front? ass_up + crouching?
post #648369 post #707186 post #71090

What is this?
post #484187

Reclining? Anything else?
Any distinction made between these sitting posts?
On hindpaws with forepaws on ground
On hindpaws with forepaws off ground
On butt with forepaws on ground
On butt with forepaws off ground
Lying
on_side + curled_up? just curled_up?
Flexible spines
Any distinction made between these on_front posts?

Also, should doggystyle be used with quadrupeds? It implies all_fours which seems to be intended for bipeds.

Updated by anonymous

I'm bumping this because there's some really good information that could definitely be used on the wiki pages. :3

Updated by anonymous

aurel said:
fuck parasprite is workin today

Reminds me of Furrypickle when he was a whee lad of an admin.

Updated by anonymous

aurel said:
fuck parasprite is workin today

Well, she gets to look at all these threads all over again as she moves them into the new category. Great way to find things that could use bumping and aliases/implications proposals tat were never dealt with.

Updated by anonymous

Just updated tag group:pose,

  • changed layout of entries a bit to make them easier to read [citation needed]

feedback welcome

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Noticed most of the head* pose tags are very undertagged- stuff like

  • head_between_legs (!)

head_in_hands (!)
head_on_shoulder (!)
head_on_stomach (!)

etc have <10 posts, rather odd

Updated by anonymous

Genjar

Former Staff

titanmelon said:
head_between_legs (!)
head_in_hands (!)
head_on_shoulder (!)
head_on_stomach (!)

etc have <10 posts, rather odd

Not odd at all. Users tend to tag things that they care about, and I doubt that most of us would ever search for any of those.

Updated by anonymous

Genjar said:
Not odd at all. Users tend to tag things that they care about, and I doubt that most of us would ever search for any of those.

Yeah.
How things are now, unless someone either mentions it somewhere, or there's a way to know what people are searching for over a period of time, I'm going to say the 'auxiliary' tags like these are niche at best
(at least until the more basic ones are established enough to not have to worry about them not being tagged on average)

Dunno what that means for the wiki pages, which are supposedly for everybody's interests (???)

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Genjar said:
Not odd at all. Users tend to tag things that they care about, and I doubt that most of us would ever search for any of those.

Then again, there probably aren't many people who search eye colour.

titanmelon said:
Yeah.
How things are now, unless someone either mentions it somewhere, or there's a way to know what people are searching for over a period of time, I'm going to say the 'auxiliary' tags like these are niche at best
(at least until the more basic ones are established enough to not have to worry about them not being tagged on average)

Dunno what that means for the wiki pages, which are supposedly for everybody's interests (???)

In many cases, the only way the tag numbers are going to rise is if someone goes out of their way to make them rise. Some are easier to raise than others, though.

non-mammal_breasts: Easy.
head_on_stomach: Not so easy.

Updated by anonymous

Genjar

Former Staff

BlueDingo said:
Then again, there probably aren't many people who search eye colour.

There aren't.
Personally, I consider those to be waste of time; countless posts are still so poorly tagged that they don't show up in basic searches, and fixing that should be the top priority.

For instance, -solo -duo -group -zero_pictured returns 94080 posts, even though it should be down to zero.

Updated by anonymous

Genjar said:
For instance, -solo -duo -group -zero_pictured returns 94080 posts, even though it should be down to zero.

The results of that search are too widespread for my liking. Refining it to eliminate some possible situations makes life easier. For example:

-solo -duo -group chartags:>2 should almost guarantee group images. Using speciestags:>4 may work as well.
-solo -duo -group chartags:1 looking_at_viewer will return many solo images.
Tags like being_watched shouldn't return solo or zero_pictured images.

Updated by anonymous

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