Related to forum #168268.

I see absolutely no reason for child to be a separate tag. If there originally were, the wiki page certainly doesn't justify it anymore, whereas cub makes it clear why everything cubby should be tagged as such.

Formal alias suggestion impossible because of existing alias (kid) and implication (to young).

What about human children???

alirezatm said:
What about human children???

Don't loli and shota cover humans?

alirezatm said:
What about human children???

see forum #168268

No. For 2 reasons:
1. cub is tag for furry characters only, young is tag you want to use instead.
2. child -> young alias suggestion was denied for reason mentioned on forum #68815

alirezatm said:
What about human children???

No tag are currently actually used in any regular way to separate human children from regular cubs. Not child, not toddler, not loli, not shota: they're ALL used indiscriminately for humans and furs alike.

Clearly the users doesn't seem to want to bother with a specific tagging scheme that would separate humans from furs at any specific age (hence why you can't narrow a search for adult-fur-on-human-toddler stuff). And besides, why should such tags apply _only_ to children/cub, but not adults or teenagers?

Granberia said:
No. For 2 reasons:
1. cub is tag for furry characters only, young is tag you want to use instead.
2. child -> young alias suggestion was denied for reason mentioned on forum #68815

That might be a valid argument if there were a majority of pictures tagged with child that actually had humans in them. As it is, it's not even half.

Basically, the tag is failing so badly at its supposed job keeping it is just pointless, not to mention it results in a significant number of pictures that should have the cub tag failing to have it.

Circeus said:
That might be a valid argument if there were a majority of pictures tagged with child that actually had humans in them. As it is, it's not even half.

This is a furry site. Not furry art is not really allowed here, so any tag is going to have majority of pictures with furry characters in them unless it's human/humanoid specific tag. I fail to see how this is relevant to whether tag is valid or not.

Basically, the tag is failing so badly at its supposed job keeping it is just pointless, not to mention it results in a significant number of pictures that should have the cub tag failing to have it.

The policy of the site is to not make implications that make invalid assumptions just because some people might forgot to tag things. Make a tagging project for tagging posts with child with cub tag instead of suggesting change that is going to affect people who now use cub tag to search (or blacklist) for furry young characters. The fact that majority of pics tagged with child are furry does not mean that tag is failing its job. It's job was to be tag for any character whose estimated age is around 3-12 years.

why people are trying to alias tags that contain humanoids and humans to tag where humans and humanoids do not belong

in both threads: species purists vs age taggers

Both are valid concerns. But humans are still in the minority here, and I'd rather we be considerate of our users who live in territories where underage pornography is an issue.

Knotty_Curls said:
in both threads: species purists vs age taggers

Both are valid concerns. But humans are still in the minority here, and I'd rather we be considerate of our users who live in territories where underage pornography is an issue.

If you can get in trouble for looking at explicit art of drawn underage characters then seriously blacklist young -rating:s just to be sure. Or change the country.
The only problem for such people might be the fact that there's no good way to blacklist not furry characters (blacklisting young -cub doesn't affect posts with both cub and human child), but IMO it's still better just to blacklist all young characters in that case. Some furry characters may still look too humanish for some sad people.

Denied. Lets keep this discussion in forum #168268.

For the record, I think the species-specific tagging of age is silly. I'd rather get rid of cub and use more generic terms myself (-human -humanoid is simpler than relying on strict tagging of vague terms).