I didn't imply these myself yet, since I don't really dare doing that to tags with a huge amount of posts attached to them, especially seen the fact I'm a novice.

So I noticed that bottomless and topless don't imply clothed. Let me quickly quote the Wiki definition of the trio:

General: clothed

Images or Animations which show characters wearing clothing.

General: bottomless

Images or animations depicting a character wearing clothing over the upper half of their body, but not over the lower half. The complement to topless.

General: topless

Images or animations depicting a character who is wearing clothing over the lower half of their body, but not the upper half. The equivalent of bottomless.

Based on these texts, wouldn't it be logical that bottomless and topless should imply clothed?

IIRC the clothed tag is for characters who are fully clothed. Tags like bottomless, topless, partially_clothed, etc are for specific uses.

Here's a link to the clothing tag group: https://e621.net/wiki/show?title=tag_group%3aclothes

DragonFox69 said:
IIRC the clothed tag is for characters who are fully clothed. Tags like bottomless, topless, partially_clothed, etc are for specific uses.

No, we have fully_clothed for fully clothed. It was aliased away for a while, but then got restored. Looks like nobody's got around to updating the wiki entries.

Clothed is tagged whenever a character is wearing any clothing. Not the most useful tag by itself, since you can generally get the same results by searching for -nude. But it has its uses.

As for why bottomless and topless weren't implicated...? I can't quite remember. I think one of the admins insisted that images like this should be tagged as topless:

post #777487

...in which case clothed cannot apply. (That particular post is tagged as clothed anyway. Am not sure why.)

I mean, adding bottomless and topless enriches posts with more tags, but the basis of those two is that they are clothed: characters wearing clothing.
Partially clothed too, means that there is clothing present.

Genjar said:
As for why bottomless and topless weren't implicated...? I can't quite remember. I think one of the admins insisted that images like this should be tagged as topless:

post #777487

...in which case clothed cannot apply. (That particular post is tagged as clothed anyway. Am not sure why.)

That could be a reason.
If by any means the idea will be abandoned, I guess the Wiki's could use a little bit of extra information about the phenomenon then, for clarification.

HotUnderTheCollar said:
That could be a reason.

I'm still not sure if it's a good reason, though.
We're supposed to only tag what can be seen. But by tagging those as topless we're assuming that the character is wearing something, even if we can't see it.

That seems inconsistent with how we tag everything else. *shrug*

Genjar said:
I'm still not sure if it's a good reason, though.
We're supposed to only tag what can be seen. But by tagging those as topless we're assuming that the character is wearing something, even if we can't see it.

That seems inconsistent with how we tag everything else. *shrug*

We should have a top_focus for those kinds of images, and then something like top_nude for a top focus where they're topless.

Genjar said:
No, we have fully_clothed for fully clothed. It was aliased away for a while, but then got restored. Looks like nobody's got around to updating the wiki entries.

Clothed is tagged whenever a character is wearing any clothing. Not the most useful tag by itself, since you can generally get the same results by searching for -nude. But it has its uses.

Ahh, I see. Thanks. :)

Bottomless and topless were once implied to a tag that implied clothed (half_dressed maybe?) but since that's gone, it no longer implies clothed. It had it all that time, so I can't imagine any harm being done from the implication.

For the bottomless/topless implications, I undid those when getting rid of half_dressed but had some pending stuff in this thread that hasn't been taken care of. Rather than revive that thread I'll copy the relevant section here for discussion:

Parasprite said:
<snip>

• Alias: half-dressed -> clothed (temp approved) - To clear out tag
• Implication: bottomless -> partially_clothed (pending)
• Implication: topless -> partially_clothed (pending)
• Alias: several -> half_naked (approved) - These are just some empty tags to keep them all together for the time being.

• mostly_nude, mostly_naked, almost_nude (currently invalidated), almost_naked
• mostly_nude might work. Implying it to partially_clothed is my currently thought.
• half_naked, half_nude, semi_nude, semi_naked (the later two probably won't be an issue anymore, it was only being tagged by one person as far as I could tell)
• These could probably be aliased to partially_clothed
• half-dressed should probably be aliased to partially_clothed instead, but I haven't moved it yet.

My thoughts:

• nude
• clothed
• fully_clothed
• partially_clothed <- half_naked?
• bottomless
• topless
• mostly_nude

(Side note: I went ahead and implied bottomless/topless -> clothed for the time being)

Furrin_Gok said:
We should have a top_focus for those kinds of images

The half-length_portrait tag is similar, but undertagged. Probably because of the length.