Topic: Monster Hunter tagging

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

With the growing amount of Monster_Hunter posts, I've taken the liberty of going through all of the present and diverse monsters, alongside their species, and seeing what needs to be implied to Monster_Hunter.

List of Monsters:
Aptonoth, Basarios, Bullfango, Cephadrome, Diablos, Fatalis, Gendrome, Gravios, Gypceros, Iodrome, Kelbi
Kirin_(mh) I went ahead and differentiated MH's Kirin from the non-MH Kirin, Khezu, Lao-Shan_Lung, Melynx, Mosswine, Plesioth, Velocidrome, Velociprey, Vespoid, Yian_Kut-Ku

List of species:
Bird_Wyvern, Elder_Dragon, Fanged_Beast, Flying_Wyvern, Neopteron, Piscine_Wyvern

This is all that I found from the very first Monster Hunter game. I'll cover through the other entries over the coming days and post them on this forum with what I find. Anyone else is more than welcome to help if they wish.

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This makes me wonder, are all 700+ Pokemon implicated to the pokémon tag? That must have taken forever.

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I've made the following changes:

leomole said:
This makes me wonder, are all 700+ Pokemon implicated to the pokémon tag? That must have taken forever.

Eeyup. That was almost all Furrypickle's doing.

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leomole said:
This makes me wonder, are all 700+ Pokemon implicated to the pokémon tag? That must have taken forever.

It's 720 now, according to Super Mystery Dungeon's box. More, if you include the Mega evolutions, since we tag those separate.

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treos said:
impressive work given the vast amount of implications that required.

He did about five a day, I think.

Baby_Kangaskhan is still missing from that list, though.

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GameManiac said:
Day 2 of my ongoing Monster Hunter tag roundup.

After going through Monster Hunter Freedom, this is what I found that needs implying.

Azure_Rathalos
Black_Diablos
Crimson_Fatalis
Gold_Rathian
Green_Plesioth
Pink_Rathian
Red_Khezu
Silver_Rathalos
Yian_Garuga

Everything except Yian Garuga should also be implied to their original species.

Pretty sure we don't tag species based on color. We'd just go straight to the species with aliases.

parasprite said:
I've made the following changes:

This one needs to be removed. Diablos is a Final Fantasy esper: which looks quite unrelated to the Monster Hunter Diablos
post #534913 post #586845
(These are the canon appearances, as they legitimately appear in games)

Diablos

should become Diablos_(disambiguation) to split it into Diablos_(esper) (Or (Final_fantasy)) and Diablos_(monster_hunter)

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Furrin_Gok said:
Pretty sure we don't tag species based on color. We'd just go straight to the species with aliases.

I'd rather avoid color_species implications, but I don't know enough about the game to make a judgement call here. Are they literally just color differences or is there more to it than that?

Furrin_Gok said:
This one needs to be removed. Diablos is a Final Fantasy esper: which looks quite unrelated to the Monster Hunter Diablos
post #534913 post #586845
(These are the canon appearances, as they legitimately appear in games)

Diablos

should become Diablos_(disambiguation) to split it into Diablos_(esper) (Or (Final_fantasy)) and Diablos_(monster_hunter)

Nice catch. I've made the following changes:

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parasprite said:
I'd rather avoid color_species implications, but I don't know enough about the game to make a judgement call here. Are they literally just color differences or is there more to it than that?

I'm an expert in Monster Hunter and wanted to do some work around the tag, so the whole "color_species implications" should be applied. It's almost like shiny_pokemon to pokemon.

It certainly holds true for stygian_zinogre, which is just an alternate coloring of a zinogre, as well as goldbeard_ceadeus, which is just a gold variant of the ceadeus.

Oh, and for Day 3, after going through Monster Hunter Freedom 2, only the Akantor species and the pseudowyvern fan name should be implied to Monster_Hunter.

...Although "pseudowyvern" should be aliased to "pseudo wyvern", for the sake of grammatical corrections.

Heh, at the end of this, perhaps I'll convince you to try out the series. I certainly wanted to and got myself Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate for the Wii U, and then Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate for the Nintendo 3DS.

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GameManiac said:
I'm an expert in Monster Hunter and wanted to do some work around the tag, so the whole "color_species implications" should be applied. It's almost like shiny_pokemon to pokemon.

Well, we do have the color_swap tag for color swaps that aren't shiny pokemon.

GameManiac said:
Oh, and for Day 3, after going through Monster Hunter Freedom 2, only the Akantor species and the pseudowyvern fan name should be implied to Monster_Hunter.

...Although "pseudowyvern" should be aliased to "pseudo wyvern", for the sake of grammatical corrections.

I'm not sure how well I like the idea of the Pseudo Wyvern tag. While we don't normally tag "partial" species as such, somebody might not realize that and attempt to tag a wyvern-hybrid as pseudo_wyvern or something. Since Pseudo Wyvern is a "Genus" name, I could understand wanting to imply it from the species, but the genus itself might be better served without further implications from there. There's no reason a tag can't have two implications, is there?

PS: Specifically, Pseudo Wyverns are the genus of Ground-centric wyverns. While some are still capable of flight, they all tend to prefer ground based movement. It's not hard to imagine somebody taking that definition and making their own Pseudowyverns completely unrelated to Monster Hunter.

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Furrin_Gok said:
PS: Specifically, Pseudo Wyverns are the genus of Ground-centric wyverns. While some are still capable of flight, they all tend to prefer ground based movement. It's not hard to imagine somebody taking that definition and making their own Pseudowyverns completely unrelated to Monster Hunter.

Hmm... You do have a point there.

Should it be Monster Hunter specific then, and changed into "pseudo_wyvern_(mh)" or something?

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GameManiac said:
Hmm... You do have a point there.

Should it be Monster Hunter specific then, and changed into "pseudo_wyvern_(mh)" or something?

Well, every member of the genus has their own species name, so the images should be tagged with the species name, which then could get implied to both pseudo_wyvern and monster_hunter.

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Furrin_Gok said:
Well, every member of the genus has their own species name, so the images should be tagged with the species name, which then could get implied to both pseudo_wyvern and monster_hunter.

No no no no no, don't do that.

The alternate_species tag exists for a reason.

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Furrin_Gok said:
I'm confused, the alternate species tag is for species swap images?

Yeah. For example, when a Pokémon or a pony from the MLP series is displayed as a human.

And after skipping Day 4 because of New Year's Eve, I'm doing double-time for Day 5.

From Monster Hunter Freedom Unite (which I'm astonished people STILL play), monsters that need implying are the Hypnocatrice, the Lavasioth, and the Ukanlos.

And from Monster Hunter 3, the list is much larger.

Agnaktor
Alatreon
Baggi
Barioth
Barroth
Ceadeus
Giggi
Gigginox (was contemplating implying it to Giggi, but I couldn't find proof)
Gobul
Great_Baggi (should also be implied to Baggi)
Great_Jaggi (should also be implied to Jaggi)
Jaggi
Jaggia (should also be implied to Jaggi)
Jhen_Mohran
Ludroth
Qurupeco
Royal_Ludroth (should also be implied to Ludroth)
Uroktor

And for species, both Brute_Wyvern, and the Leviathan_(mh) tag that I made to specify Monster Hunter's monsters.

Leviathan_(mh) should also be implied to leviathan.

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GameManiac said:
Yeah. For example, when a Pokémon or a pony from the MLP series is displayed as a human.

Let me clarify why I'm confused: The pseudo-wyvern tag has nothing to do with alternate species. You're implying both the genus and the copyright, is all. Where's "Alternate species" come into play?

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Furrin_Gok said:
Let me clarify why I'm confused: The pseudo-wyvern tag has nothing to do with alternate species. You're implying both the genus and the copyright, is all. Where's "Alternate species" come into play?

Oh, we're talking about the pseudowyvern tag?

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parasprite said:
Any chance you condense the pending ones in this thread into a new implication thread? I'm working on older suggestions right now and I don't want to risk this getting lost.

If it makes it easier for you to imply them, then I suppose so.

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GameManiac said:
Oh, we're talking about the pseudowyvern tag?

The exact post you quoted:

GameManiac said:

Furrin_Gok said:
Well, every member of the genus has their own species name, so the images should be tagged with the species name, which then could get implied to both pseudo_wyvern and monster_hunter.

No no no no no, don't do that.

The alternate_species tag exists for a reason.

So, yeah, that's what we were talking about. Did you hit "respond" to the wrong post?

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Furrin_Gok said:
So, yeah, that's what we were talking about. Did you hit "respond" to the wrong post?

No, no need to. I need to leave an example to highlight what I meant with the alternate_species tag.

Even though let's say a Rathian is a Rathian, it shouldn't be implied to flying_wyvern. A potential image of a humanized Rathian, or a Rathian depicted as a different species entirely, would incorrectly imply that tag.

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GameManiac said:
No, no need to. I need to leave an example to highlight what I meant with the alternate_species tag.

Even though let's say a Rathian is a Rathian, it shouldn't be implied to flying_wyvern. A potential image of a humanized Rathian, or a Rathian depicted as a different species entirely, would incorrectly imply that tag.

Oh, now I understand. Thank you for explaining. Not sure how I didn't think of that.

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