Note: All work has been moved to my profile, which can be found here.

This was originally the Cum Tag Clean-Up thread, but has since been refurbished to be Metal Gear Solid 3 themed.

There's cum EVERYWHERE

TheGreatWolfgang said:

There's cum EVERYWHERE

post #213041

ShylokVakarian said:
Could we get back on topic here? Serious unfinished business to do.

yeah, I never finished

ShylokVakarian said:
Could we get back on topic here? Serious unfinished business to do.

Just fyi, these type of monolithic tag threads don't tend to get a lot of discussion because most people don't want to take the time. It would help if you organized and formatted the first post more clearly though. It's harder to mentally parse than it needs to be.

Some suggestions:

• Listing what tags you looked at and then separately listing them again with the comments is a bit redundant. I would suggest putting the first two lists in a \

to put more focus on the important part (your suggested changes).

• Separate the ones you've commented on and the ones you haven't into different blocks with a blank line between them. Tags that don't need discussion or changes (that is the meaning of the None mark, right?) could also be put in their own block, or even omitted entirely.
• Tags that are closely related (in this case, the various colors in particular) could be put into comma separated lists so that they are more clearly grouped and also so that the post is more vertically compact.
• It's very helpful to use the {{tag}} or [[tag]] syntax to linkify everything so that it is easy to check how the tags are being used.

purple.beastie said:
Just fyi, these type of monolithic tag threads don't tend to get a lot of discussion because most people don't want to take the time. It would help if you organized and formatted the first post more clearly though. It's harder to mentally parse than it needs to be.

Some suggestions:

• Listing what tags you looked at and then separately listing them again with the comments is a bit redundant. I would suggest putting the first two lists in a [section][/section] to put more focus on the important part (your suggested changes).
• Separate the ones you've commented on and the ones you haven't into different blocks with a blank line between them. Tags that don't need discussion or changes (that is the meaning of the None mark, right?) could also be put in their own block, or even omitted entirely.
• Tags that are closely related (in this case, the various colors in particular) could be put into comma separated lists so that they are more clearly grouped and also so that the post is more vertically compact.
• It's very helpful to use the {{tag}} or [[tag]] syntax to linkify everything so that it is easy to check how the tags are being used.

Thanks, main post updated. Was lazy when I posted that.

ShylokVakarian said:
I still think both tags are the stupidest things ever. I still move to remove these tags entirely.

Stupid how? Presenting_cum is for images such as...
post #107076

What else would those be tagged as? (Offering_cum, maybe?)

Genjar said:
Stupid how? Presenting_cum is for images such as...
post #107076

What else would those be tagged as? (Offering_cum, maybe?)

I don't know, it just sounds stupid as hell (cum is not a body part, like the rest of the presenting_* tags), and also unnecessary. Who would even know the existence of this tag AND search for it?

THis thread is where I asked about ideas for presenting_cum. I utterly fail to see how it is not descriptive of the images concerned. I will fight for every inch of terrain for having a tag to use on those images.

offering_cum probably won't do because a) the hands are not necessarily involved and b) the point is not offering it anyway.

Circeus said:
THis thread is where I asked about ideas for presenting_cum. I utterly fail to see how it is not descriptive of the images concerned. I will fight for every inch of terrain for having a tag to use on those images.

offering_cum probably won't do because a) the hands are not necessarily involved and b) the point is not offering it anyway.

Is it really necessary, though? Most people wouldn't even use this tag, much less know that it even exists.

ShylokVakarian said:
Is it really necessary, though?

I feel that anything that someone would want to either search for or blacklist is kind of necessary, and this action is unique enough to have it's own tag.

ShylokVakarian said:
Most people wouldn't even use this tag, much less know that it even exists.

I doubt that there is a single user that knows all (or even most) of the tags used on the site (especially the more obscure tags) but to me that doesn't mean that they are not worth having.

DragonFox69 said:
I feel that anything that someone would want to either search for or blacklist is kind of necessary, and this action is unique enough to have it's own tag.

This is my philosophy about it. If only because a good set of tags makes it so incredibly easier to find exactly what you want, especially when it's a specific image.

Fine, the tag stays...

But at least try to come up with a different name for it. It doesn't need to be lumped in with the body parts, as presenting_* is used mainly for body parts. I don't see a presenting_saliva tag, or a presenting_bile tag, so there shouldn't be any bodily fluid lumped with the body parts.

I concur.
Those shouldn't be tagged as presenting, since nothing's being presented for use.

Okay, so I guess I'm going to have to start leading through the items needed to be discussed. I'll start with the tags I feel should be removed as of right now.

holding_cum: Yes, I understand that you can indeed hold cum by cupping your hands. Is it necessary, though? Who would feel the need to blacklist or search for this? Is there a better way of naming this, like, for example, handful_of_cum?

<3_cum: This one just seems frivolous to me. It could easily be replaced with cum and <3, and it would be exactly the same. It's like combining apple and orange to get apples_and_oranges. If heart-shaped cum DOES become a big thing, we can always reinstate it later, but for now, it seems frivolous.

"Enough of this frivolity, kid, c'mon, we got work to do!" --Victor Sullivan
"What does frivolity mean?" --Nathan Drake

And we might as well get this out of the way: Any suggestions for a new name for presenting_cum?

Not sure if anyone will bother to read this but...

ShylokVakarian said:
But at least try to come up with a different name for it. It doesn't need to be lumped in with the body parts, as presenting_* is used mainly for body parts. I don't see a presenting_saliva tag, or a presenting_bile tag, so there shouldn't be any bodily fluid lumped with the body parts.
...
And we might as well get this out of the way: Any suggestions for a new name for presenting_cum?

Let me get my thesaurus; offer, show, expose, hold out, display. Though neither of those seem fitting... I don't see the problem of using presenting, for an action that clearly describes the action in this case. It's just seems a bit too much to try to avoid it being called "presenting". If we must change it, maybe displaying_cum/cum_display?

Genjar said:
I concur.
Those shouldn't be tagged as presenting, since nothing's being presented for use.

Except, something is presented and it can be used, just maybe not in the way you would consider. Besides, just because someone is presenting something doesn't mean you're supposed to get all grabby. Presenting only means just that, presenting, nothing more nothing less.

ShylokVakarian said:
holding_cum: Yes, I understand that you can indeed hold cum by cupping your hands. Is it necessary, though? Who would feel the need to blacklist or search for this? Is there a better way of naming this, like, for example, handful_of_cum?

Not a single tag is really truly necessary, it's a matter of a degree. Also people who have a "fetish" towards cum might be interested?

While probably not an issue "handful" is slightly ambiguous as it can either be a hand full of cum, or as a measure of volume e.g. a handful of cum on the ground. Maybe cum_in_hand(s)? Though I don't really see much of a problem with holding_cum, you can hold liquids, or even heavy gases, though it's not as tangible.

ShylokVakarian said:
<3_cum: This one just seems frivolous to me. It could easily be replaced with cum and <3, and it would be exactly the same. It's like combining apple and orange to get apples_and_oranges. If heart-shaped cum DOES become a big thing, we can always reinstate it later, but for now, it seems frivolous.

I could take it or leave it, though it's one of those "special use"-tags, contrary to apples_and_oranges which are just two random fruits.

Chessax said:
Except, something is presented and it can be used, just maybe not in the way you would consider. Besides, just because someone is presenting something doesn't mean you're supposed to get all grabby. Presenting only means just that, presenting, nothing more nothing less.

It's best to keep the tag groups consistent: that makes those easier to remember and to tag. All other presenting_* tags are for 'presenting for use', so that one doesn't fit in.

It's currently tagged for combo of after_sex and either cum_on_face, cum_in_mouth or simply messy. Pretty much what aftermath was used for, before it got invalidated. That's not presenting.

Dunno what would be better, though. Maybe oral_aftermath? It seems to describe the concept better than presenting_cum does.

Genjar said:
It's best to keep the tag groups consistent: that makes those easier to remember and to tag. All other presenting_* tags are for 'presenting for use', so that one doesn't fit in.

It's currently tagged for combo of after_sex and either cum_on_face, cum_in_mouth or simply messy. Pretty much what aftermath was used for, before it got invalidated. That's not presenting.

Dunno what would be better, though. Maybe oral_aftermath? It seems to describe the concept better than presenting_cum does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AD95BBZqSYbe

ShylokVakarian said:
Our main complaint is that cum is a body fluid, not a body part. Presenting_* is used mainly for body parts.

Genjar said:
It's best to keep the tag groups consistent: that makes those easier to remember and to tag. All other presenting_* tags are for 'presenting for use', so that one doesn't fit in.

It's currently tagged for combo of after_sex and either cum_on_face, cum_in_mouth or simply messy. Pretty much what aftermath was used for, before it got invalidated. That's not presenting.

Dunno what would be better, though. Maybe oral_aftermath? It seems to describe the concept better than presenting_cum does.

Very well, I give, but only on the naming part, and almost all of the characters in those posts are still in some way showing off that they've been cummed on/in (i.e. "presenting", just not our presenting).

oral_aftermath wouldn't work since it doesn't have to be oral at all (even if many would be), but I have no good idea what would be a more appropriate alternative name for it.

Chessax said:
Very well, I give, but only on the naming part, and almost all of the characters in those posts are still in some way showing off that they've been cummed on/in (i.e. "presenting", just not our presenting).

oral_aftermath wouldn't work since it doesn't have to be oral at all (even if many would be), but I have no good idea what would be a more appropriate alternative name for it.

Chessax said:
Let me get my thesaurus; offer, show, expose, hold out, display. Though neither of those seem fitting.

I think showing_cum sounds okay as it's exactly what the character is actually doing in these images.

I also remember a comic (I tried to find it but I couldn't, it may have been taken down or something) where a character finished performing fellatio and was told "Show me!", the next panel was this very type of image.

Hmm...showing_aftermath? It isn't always just cum.

DragonFox69 said:
I think showing_cum sounds okay as it's exactly what the character is actually doing in these images.

I also remember a comic (I tried to find it but I couldn't, it may have been taken down or something) where a character finished performing fellatio and was told "Show me!", the next panel was this very type of image.

Again, I'd like to suggest showing_aftermath. Let me know what you guys think.

That's mostly true, but with implications the problem of being undertagged is not really a problem since you can just use colored_cum anyway. Implications can also encourage increased usage of a tag.

I'm just trying to put the lesser-used colors into colored_cum, and implicating the more used colors to colored_cum, so it's more compact and people can more easily find or blacklist it.

Or keep both (as you might have noticed I'm not much for scrapping tags which would have some practical use).

Well, all cum is thick in a way, so it'd really be redundant to have a thick_cum tag.

While a disambiguation might have been interesting, the naming issue is probably enough to simply implement yellow-hued_cum without invalidating, the disambiguation will probably just be a hindrance when searching with very little benefit when it comes to tagging.

As far as yellow-hued_cum goes, I doubt it's a tag which would get widespread active searches, but it might be interesting from a blacklist point of view (seen people complain about this more than once).

My main problem is people tagging yellow_cum when it belongs in yellow_hued_cum. Then it gets past the blacklist, assuming that whoever blacklisted YHC didn't blacklist colored as well, and suddenly, they start throwing a hissy fit because they have to go and put it in its proper place.

And yeah, I figured it wouldn't get many active searches, but its blacklisting potential would be amazing.

I see, well I got no real opinion on the whole "metallic" deal either way.

I may just be screwing around here. Maybe we'll hold off on the metallic deal until we see metallic cum that isn't gold.

The problem with hyper/excessive, is that it's more a case of bad tagging which can sometimes be helped by giving clear indications in the wiki of what the tags are supposed to represent and when each should be used and when not be used. Re. superfluous_cum, that one I can live without i.e. alias to excessive_cum.

I think these particular tags need a total overhaul. We'll save them for later.

Very well, I give, but only on the naming part, and almost all of the characters in those posts are still in some way showing off that they've been cummed on/in (i.e. "presenting", just not our presenting).

Duly noted. We admit that they are indeed "presenting". It's just weird in terms of how we use presenting in our tags.

oral_aftermath wouldn't work since it doesn't have to be oral at all (even if many would be), but I have no good idea what would be a more appropriate alternative name for it.

Again, may I suggest showing_aftermath?

Guys, could we continue this discussion? We still have things to talk about.

ShylokVakarian said:
Guys, could we continue this discussion? We still have things to talk about.

No.

_okay

But more seriously, I plan on going through these tomorrow. I'll basically handle the most obvious/easy ones and give a summary of what is left. I think it might be a easier for people to digest and focus discussion that way.

parasprite said:
No.

_okay

But more seriously, I plan on going through these tomorrow. I'll basically handle the most obvious/easy ones and give a summary of what is left. I think it might be a easier for people to digest and focus discussion that way.

I'd recommend not passing judgement on the colored_cum implications/aliases just yet. Still need to decide which ones should be aliased and which should be implicated instead. You can go ahead and implicate it to unusual, though. I think it's been agreed upon that unusual will be used for anything not normal.

yellow_cum: Sort into the following categories:

• This Is Really Plain Old Yellow Cum (Move to an as of yet unknown tag)
• This Is Liquid Gold (gold_cum)
• This Was Meant To Be Normal Cum, And Is Just Yellow-Tinted White (yellow_hued_cum)

...

yellow-hued_cum/yellow_hued_cum: Alias one to the other

Denied. This tag is too small to be worth splitting. It's also hard enough trying to keep them from getting tagged as urine since the fluid is sometimes ambiguous (whether on purpose or not, I'm not sure).

I've yet to see "gold cum" in a post, but as long as it isn't causing problems I'd just leave it as is. An implication could work too.

blue_cum, green_cum, purple_cum, rainbow_cum, black_cum, pink_cum, orange_cum, red_cum, brown_cum, grey_cum, gray_cum, yellow_cum (After sorted out completely): Alias non-popular tags to colored_cum

Implicating the popular ones to colored_cum should be enough. Aliases to clean up tags like this aren't really worth the effort as there are thousands of those tags out there for every body part and fluid. Aliases to clean up hues can be worth though (e.g., violet/purple, magenta/fuchsia/pink, and so on).

(Most of them were already implicated, but I added grey_cum/black_cum -> colored_cum and aliased gray_cum -> grey_cum below)

Changes made:

• Alias: thick_cum -> cum (approved)
• Alias: sticky_cum -> cum (approved)
• Alias: lava_cum/flaming_cum -> fire_cum (approved) - Edit: lava_cum alias deleted
• Alias: nuclear_cum/radioactive_cum -> glowing_cum (approved)
• Alias: girl_cum -> pussy_juice (approved)
• Alias: anal_cum -> cum_in_ass (approved)
• Alias: vaginal_cum -> cum_in_pussy (approved)
• Alias: fake_cum -> cumlube (approved)
• Alias: drink_cum/drinking_cum -> cum_drinking (approved) Edit: Moved all aliases to drinking_cum instead
• Alias: gray_cum -> grey_cum (approved)
• Implication: grey_cum -> colored_cum (approved)
• Implication: black_cum -> colored_cum (approved)

• unusual_cum - Feel free to remove this. I'll leave it as is unless anybody thinks it's worth an alias.

Pending:

• food_as_cum cum_as_food - eating_cum maybe? From what I understand the tag is more about cum being used as food (e.g., cum in a soup, cum on a cake, cum in a filled donut, etc.) so that might not work that well.
• Alias: acid_cum/acidic_cum/caustic_cum/corrosive_cum (pending)
• Alias: excessive_cum/superfluous_cum/infinite_cum -> hyper_cum (pending) - The cum_inflation implication might make the first one tricky, but it would be nice to standardize terminology for these.
• Implication: vomiting_cum -> cum_from_mouth - forum #168716

Unsure:

• swallowing_cum/cum_swallow - Stuff like this is hard to fit into TWYS. Sometimes you can see the "swallow" but usually you can't.
• (cum_in_mouth can be left as is. It fits well with the other x_in_x or x_on_x tags)

simultaneous_orgasm/simultaneous_cum/double_cum/simultaneous_ejaculation/simultaneous_orgasms

• licking_cum/cum_licking/cum_lick - Common, but would probably be widely undertagged
• holding_cum/cum_in_hands - Same as above
• presenting_cum - Odd one, but there might be some usage here worth tagging

Uncommon:

These ones probably aren't worth bothering over.

• crying_cum
• ice_cum/freezing_cum
• bloody_cum

• sparkling_cum
• caramel_cum
• honey_cum
• iridescent_cum
• metallic_cum/lustrous_cum

• <3_cum
• cup_of_cum
• fountain_of_cum
• bowl_of_cum
• glass_of_cum

Okay, Batch 1 of the tags have been completed. I am speaking with parasprite about a few tags in PM, but for the most part, we're done with Batch 1.

I've reorganized the tags into batches, as you can see. We will now focus on Batch 2. Please refrain from discussing Batch 3 at this time, as that will be discussed later, when Batch 2 is completed, as the suggestions in Batch 3 will take more time.

Also, there is now a Stage 2, Wiki pages. The only one that is really necessary is the one for unusual_cum, as I plan on using it for a catch-all for blacklisting and searching. These are projects that do not need to be discussed, so feel free to belt it out, post what page you wrote, and call it a day. Feel free to do these at any time.

This thread will now be locked to prevent distractions from occuring. A new post has been made for the purposes of Batch 2.