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Topic: grab/grabbing/grip/gripping/lift/lifting/carrying/holding/fondling/grope etc

Posted under General

yeah, a lot of tags, I know, but at least most of them seem to have one thing in common: some kind of hand motion on something.

Surely some of these can be aliased/implied to eachother, right?

Regardless, these could use some cleaning up and clearing up as well because some of these are being used interchangeably. Most of them don't even have a wiki article as well.

-butt_grab is aliased from ass_fondle, butt_grope according to the wiki, so would that mean that fondle and grope should be aliased to grab/grabbing too? I wouldn't know about that, because grope's wiki article says fondling or TOUCHING, so technically groping wouldn't be the same as grabbing, because grab means more than just touch? I don't know.

Sorry if this is all overwhelming, I just want this to be straightened out so there can be some sort of standard on this king of tagging.

Updated

That is a lot

How about a list of each tag, with post# examples if possible?
That would be really helpful in deciding which ones to keep/alias/nuke/disambiguate/other

Updated by anonymous

titaniachkt said:
That is a lot

How about a list of each tag, with post# examples if possible?
That would be really helpful in deciding which ones to keep/alias/nuke/disambiguate/other

Noted, thanks, will do soon if someone doesn't sooner :)

Updated by anonymous

Okay this is what I put together:

Sorry, most of it's gay stuff, I have a lot of straight-related tags in my blacklist. Anyway:

Grab/grabbing (head):

2011 anal anal_penetration anthro anthro_on_anthro bent_over blacksad bodily_fluids bottomwear bottomwear_down brown_body brown_fur canid canine canis clothed clothed_sex clothing cum desk digital_media_(artwork) digital_painting_(artwork) domestic_dog duo erection from_behind_position fur furniture genital_fluids genitals inside male male/male male_penetrated male_penetrating male_penetrating_male mammal office painting_(artwork) pants pants_down partially_clothed penetration penis pinned racoonwolf rough_sex sex side_view snow table tail tongue tongue_out winter

Grip/gripping (butt):
1:1 2012 aggrobadger all_fours anal anal_penetration anthro avoid_posting backsack balls bdsm blue_merle bodily_fluids bondage border border_collie bound butt butt_grab calico_cat canid canine canis claws close-up collar collar_tag collie cum cum_in_ass cum_inside cum_while_penetrated cumshot digital_media_(artwork) doggystyle domestic_cat domestic_dog dominant dominant_male dripping duo ejaculation erection eyes_closed felid feline felis foreskin freckles from_behind_position genital_fluids genitals grabbing_sheets green_eyes hair hand_on_butt hands-free herding_dog hi_res holding_leash holding_object humanoid_genitalia humanoid_penis hybrid leash leash_in_mouth leash_pull light_bondage male male/male male_penetrated male_penetrating male_penetrating_male mammal mottled mouth_hold nude object_in_mouth orgasm partially_retracted_foreskin pastoral_dog penetration penile_spines penis petplay piebald red_collar red_hair roleplay sex sheepdog spines spots star submissive submissive_male tricolor vein

grab and grip seem to be similar

lift/lifting (another body)

1:1 anal anal_penetration anthro armor bandai_namco barazoku bat biceps big_muscles black_body black_skin blackwargreymon blush bodily_fluids butt carrying_another claws clothing crossover cum cum_in_ass cum_inside cum_on_butt cum_on_penis cum_string digimon digimon_(species) dinosaur duo erection eye_contact fucked_silly genital_fluids genitals gloves handwear hat headgear headwear helmet horn humanoid_pointy_ears interspecies japanese japanese_text legs_up lifted lizard looking_at_another looking_pleasured male male/male male_penetrated male_penetrating male_penetrating_male mammal manly maou-abutan membrane_(anatomy) membranous_wings muscular muscular_male narrowed_eyes nude open_mouth orgasm penetration penis pointy_ears prehistoric_species purple_body purple_eyes purple_skin red_body red_penis red_skin reptile scalie sex shadow sharp_teeth simple_background size_difference spikes spread_legs spreading squint stand_and_carry_position standing standing_sex stare sweat teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles teeth text tongue tongue_out translated white_background wingnut_(tmnt) wings yellow_body yellow_eyes yellow_nose yellow_skin
1:1 2011 4_toes against_surface against_wall anal anal_penetration anthro anthro_on_anthro anthro_penetrated anthro_penetrating anthro_penetrating_anthro anus barefoot black_body black_border black_fur black_stripes bodily_fluids border bottomwear bottomwear_down boxers_(clothing) butt canid canine canis caressing clothed clothed_sex clothing cum cum_in_ass cum_inside cumshot curling_toes denim denim_bottomwear denim_clothing detailed_background domestic_dog duo ejaculation erection eyes_closed feet felid fur genital_fluids genitals hand_on_face hindpaw inside interspecies jeans keto kissing lifting male male/male male_penetrated male_penetrating male_penetrating_male mammal multicolored_body multicolored_fur orange_body orange_fur orgasm pantherine pants pants_down partially_clothed paws penetration penile penile_penetration penis penis_in_ass red_body red_fur romantic romantic_couple sex shirt stand_and_carry_position standing standing_sex stripes tail text tiger toes topwear two_tone_body two_tone_fur underwear url white_body white_fur

carrying (another body)

3:4 against_surface against_wall anthro balls blacklight bodily_fluids bottomless bottomwear bottomwear_down breasts canid canine canis clothed clothing collar colored_cum crowd cum cum_drip cum_in_pussy cum_inside dancing digitigrade dominant dominant_female dragon dripping duo_focus ear_piercing erection eye_contact feet female fishnet_clothing genital_fluids genitals glowing glowing_cum glowstick grey_body grey_hair group hair hindpaw holding_leash holding_object horn inside interspecies jasmine_isis knowntobite leash leash_pull leg_grab looking_at_another male male/female mammal mistress mythological_creature mythological_scalie mythology nipple_tape nude pants pants_down partially_clothed pasties pawpads paws penetration penis piercing pink_cum public public_sex rave razr razr_(character) red_body scalie sex stand_and_carry_position standing standing_sex submissive submissive_male tail tape tenaflux toes undressed unusual_bodily_fluids unusual_cum unusual_genital_fluids vaginal vaginal_penetration white_hair wolf
2012 5_fingers anthro baseball_cap black_nose blonde_hair blue_background blue_eyes bottomwear brown_hair canid canine canis carrying_another clothed clothing crop_top dipstick_tail domestic_dog duo english_text eye_contact female fingers fluffy fluffy_tail footwear fully_clothed hair hand_to_face hand_under_clothing hat headgear headwear hi_res hug jill_(disambiguation) legwear looking_at_another love male male/female mammal markings multicolored_body nose_to_nose piggyfront ponytail red_eyes shirt shoes short_hair shorts side_view simple_background sneakers socks standing stoopix t-shirt tail tail_markings text tomboy topwear yellow_body

carrying seems to be similar to lift, but I think it's generally used for tings less sexually

holding (general):

2012 abs alligator alligatorid amwulf anal anal_penetration anthro anthro_on_anthro anthro_penetrated anthro_penetrating anthro_penetrating_anthro armpit_hair balls bed bedroom belly biceps big_muscles big_penis black_nose blue_eyes blush bodily_fluids body_hair border brother_(lore) brothers_(lore) brown_body brown_fur canid canine canis cigar cigarette circumcised claws clayton_(amwulf) clothing countershading crocodilian cum cum_in_ass cum_in_mouth cum_inside cum_on_belly cum_on_body cum_on_chest cum_on_face cum_on_tail cum_string cumshot domestic_dog ejaculation erection eyes_closed fangs feet foot_grab frank_(amwulf) from_behind_position fur furniture gaslight gaslightdog genital_fluids genitals gold_(metal) gold_tooth green_body green_countershading green_skin grey_belly grey_body grey_fur grin group group_sex hat headgear headwear humanoid_genitalia humanoid_penis indirect_incest_(lore) inside interspecies kneeling leaking legs_up lucky_pierre lying male male/male male_penetrated male_penetrating male_penetrating_male mammal muscular muscular_male nipples nude on_back open_mouth orgasm pecs penetration penis reptile scales scalie sex sharp_teeth sibling_(lore) slightly_chubby smile smoke smoke_from_nose smoking standing table_lotus_position tail teeth threesome toe_claws tongue trio white_border window
2012 abs all_fours anal anal_penetration animal_genitalia anthro athletic balls belly biceps big_muscles big_penis black_body black_claws black_horn black_skin blue_body blue_penis blue_skin bodily_fluids claws clenched_teeth cum cum_string cum_trail cum_while_penetrated cumshot doggystyle dominant dominant_male dragon duo ear_piercing ejaculation erection european_mythology eyes_closed fangs feathered_wings feathers forked_tongue from_behind_position genital_fluids genitals hair hands-free horn kneeling knot leaking lion21 male male/male male_penetrated male_penetrating male_penetrating_male markings membrane_(anatomy) membranous_wings muscular muscular_male mythological_creature mythological_scalie mythology nude open_mouth orange_hair orgasm pecs penetration penis piercing red_body red_skin scales scalie sex sheath spread_wings stripes sulfer tabra teeth toe_claws tongue tongue_out torso_grab vein western_dragon white_belly wings
2012 3_toes abs against_surface against_wall alley animal_genitalia animal_penis anthro biceps black_body black_fur black_hair black_nose blue_eyes breasts brick brick_wall canid canine canine_genitalia canine_penis canis claws digitigrade domestic_cat duo erection eye_contact feet felid feline felis female fluffy fluffy_tail fur genitals green_eyes grey_body grey_fur hair knot lamp leg_markings looking_at_another male male/female mammal markings muscular nipples nude orange_body orange_fur orange_hair outside pecs penis pink_nose raised_tail red_body red_fur red_penis redrevolution smile socks_(marking) standing tail toe_claws toes wall_(structure) whiskers white_body white_fur wolf
5:3 abs all_fours anal anal_penetration animal_genitalia anthro anthro_on_anthro anus bed biceps big_penis black_body black_skin blue_body blue_skin bodily_fluids claws close-up cum cum_in_ass cum_inside cum_on_penis cum_string doggystyle dragon duo erection european_mythology faceless_character faceless_male fangs from_behind_position furniture genital_fluids genital_slit genitals horn internal japanese_text kneeling leaking lying male male/male male_penetrated male_penetrating male_penetrating_male membrane_(anatomy) membranous_wings muscular mythological_creature mythological_scalie mythology nude on_front open_mouth orgasm pecs penetration penis red_eyes red_penis reptile saliva scales scalie scar sex tail tail_grab teeth text toe_claws tongue tongue_out torso_grab unknown_artist western_dragon white_body white_skin wings
2012 anal anal_penetration animate_inanimate anthro avoid_posting biceps canid canine canis chest_tuft claws domestic_dog dragoneer duo eyes_closed fangs feet foot_grab fur german_shepherd herding_dog husky inflatable kiyo_(character) kiyo_(kainu) living_inflatable male male/male male_penetrated male_penetrating male_penetrating_male mammal muscular nordic_sled_dog nozzle nude open_mouth pastoral_dog pecs penetration pool_toy sex sex_toy spitz squeezing standing swimming_pool teeth tongue torso_grab tuft unknown_artist water wet

looks similar to grap and grip as well

fondle: (boobs)

anthro breast_fondling breast_play breasts canid canine canis clothing conditional_dnp digital_media_(artwork) domestic_dog female fondling hand_on_breast latex latex_(artist) mammal simple_background solo transformation

fondle: (balls)
2011 anatomically_correct anatomically_correct_genitalia anatomically_correct_penis animal_genitalia animal_penis anthro ball_fondling balls belt big_balls big_penis biped blue_body blue_fur bodily_fluids bottomwear bracelet canid canine canine_genitalia canine_penis canis clothed clothing codestrike collar collar_tag condom condom_in_mouth cum curled curled_tail domestic_dog dripping erection fondling footwear fur genital_fluids genitals heart_symbol hi_res husky jewelry kneeling knot legwear looking_at_viewer male mammal mouth_hold nordic_sled_dog object_in_mouth pants partially_clothed paws penis pole pose precum sexual_barrier_device shirt simple_background socks solo spitz spread_legs spreading strike tail thong thong_straps topwear underwear undressing unused_condom wrapped_condom

squeeze: (boobs)

anthro bedroom_eyes blue_eyes breasts covering covering_breasts covering_self criss eyewear fangs female glasses grin hand_on_breast horn krinkels looking_at_viewer narrowed_eyes nude seductive simple_background smile smug solo squeezing tail teeth

looks like grap/grip but a lot more firmly and roughly

....not to mention the plethora of tags that are hand_on_* and *_pull.

Keep in mind that all of these aren't necessarily tagged correctly and the fact that these are chosen off of somewhat personal judgement so it may not be the most accurate pics.

Updated by anonymous

KiwiPotato said:
bump

KiwiPotato said:
bump

Ugh, no idea how I missed this topic twice. Those reference pics definitely makes things easier to internalize

So, how about a rough grouping based on the focused action:

  • Focus on touching, but not moving an object/person - Fondle/fondling , grope/groping, grip/gripping, grab/grabbing
  • Focus on moving an object/person - Holding, carrying, lifting
  • Other

Holding could be an umbrella tag for carrying and lifting, but that doesn't take into account cases where someone is telepathically carrying/lifting the object; so maybe leaving those separate would be a better idea

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And as for aliases, the progressive tense of a verb (-ing tags) usually takes precedence over the verb itself (grab, jump); something like:

grab -> grabbing
grip -> gripping
lift -> lifting
carry -> carrying
grope -> groping etc.

If pressed, the fondle/grope tags *could* be interchangeable, but using them to separate instances of self-fondling, as opposed to being groped from someone else may be a more flexible option

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The usage for most of these seems to be situationally dependent more than anything else though, which explains why there are so many of them being used with relatively low tag counts for each

There's also the *_on_* tags, which need lots of cleaning up and possibly separating (such as arms/legs v.s. arm/leg), but discussing those in a separate topic (something like Body Position/ Posture) may be easier than grouping everything in here

Updated by anonymous

So would we then turn butt_grab into butt_grabbing? I think because we already have various *_grab tags, we should alias grip/gripping to grab/grabbing. Part of me wants to leave them all separate, as they do describe slightly different actions. On the other hand, I'm for combining them, as it can be really difficult to decide which one is going on in an image, since there's only a subtle difference.

Here's what I think:
Gripping -> Grabbing

Groping needs to be clarified first. Its wiki even says it is "touching or fondling." Yet most of us would say fondling is something different.

Lifting, carrying, and holding can remain separate, but possibly cleaned. You must first lift before you can carry, and you can carry while not being in the act of lifting.

Fondling needs to be clarified and either folded into an existing tag or defined in the wiki.

Updated by anonymous

Sorry for the long wait for the reply guys.

And as for aliases, the progressive tense of a verb (-ing tags) usually takes precedence over the verb itself (grab, jump); something like:

grab -> grabbing
grip -> gripping
lift -> lifting
carry -> carrying
grope -> groping etc.

Okay, sounds good to me.
No clue what to do for the pressed though.

The usage for most of these seems to be situationally dependent more than anything else though, which explains why there are so many of them being used with relatively low tag counts for each

Yeah I noticed that.

There's also the *_on_* tags, which need lots of cleaning up and possibly separating (such as arms/legs v.s. arm/leg), but discussing those in a separate topic (something like Body Position/ Posture) may be easier than grouping everything in here

quick, someone make another topic.

also what redoctober said.

Updated by anonymous

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