I am working on learning some HTML & CSS so I can have a less boring job.

There is a degree program for web development at my local college, but 90% of the course work I was doing for another program there doesn't apply to the degree so fuck them.

http://i.imgur.com/ovyNraL.gif

parasprite said:
http://i.imgur.com/ovyNraL.gif

yeah, I noticed that immediately when I realized what CSS is supposed to do in theory: make things easier, but by the same token it opens itself up to making things more infuriating and complicated

Made 3 websites but then I lost the passion for it

I have some experience in both so maybe I can be of help

parasprite said:
http://i.imgur.com/ovyNraL.gif[/quote]

lol, pretty much (even though I rarely have problems ;) )

Xch3l said:
I have some experience in both so maybe I can be of help

lol, pretty much (even though I rarely have problems ;) )

I have not run into any big problems yet but I might ask.

Xch3l said:
I have some experience in both so maybe I can be of help

lol, pretty much (even though I rarely have problems ;) )

I recommend this dude. He's cool

Ozelot said:
I have not run into any big problems yet but I might ask.

Sure thing! I'm here all night! :D

TheHuskyK9 said:
I recommend this dude. He's cool

^_meep~

Ozelot said:
yeah, I noticed that immediately when I realized what CSS is supposed to do in theory: make things easier, but by the same token it opens itself up to making things more infuriating and complicated

It has a lot of tendency to bloat over time, which doesn't help matters much. This is especially true if you ever work on CSS that was maintained by various people over a longer period of time as most people seem to ignore it unless they have to change/fix something. Just be glad that browser-specific hacks aren't as common as they once were. :P

In case you weren't aware I'd recommend you check out your browser's developer tools (if they have any). For instance, on FF/Chrome (and I believe newer versions of IE) you can right click -> "Inspect element" on any page to get a lot of very helpful information and tools. It's also good for making live edits to HTML (Elements) and CSS (both under Elements -> styles and the actual file under Sources) as you can get a better feel to how a page interprets subtle changes.

parasprite said:
In case you weren't aware I'd recommend you check out your browser's developer tools (if they have any). For instance, on FF/Chrome (and I believe newer versions of IE) you can right click -> "Inspect element" on any page to get a lot of very helpful information and tools. It's also good for making live edits to HTML (Elements) and CSS (both under Elements -> styles and the actual file under Sources) as you can get a better feel to how a page interprets subtle changes.

Ah, yes! Inspect Element will be your friend here. I use it to tweak minor details and modify some other things before finally adding them to the stylesheet they belong to, to avoid many tedious change/refresh cycles (as well as debugging, but that's a whole different thing). Sure, it takes a bit to get used to, but it's the most powerful tool you'll ever have

parasprite said:
In case you weren't aware I'd recommend you check out your browser's developer tools (if they have any). For instance, on FF/Chrome (and I believe newer versions of IE) you can right click -> "Inspect element" on any page to get a lot of very helpful information and tools. It's also good for making live edits to HTML (Elements) and CSS (both under Elements -> styles and the actual file under Sources) as you can get a better feel to how a page interprets subtle changes.

This was indeed found out about by me earlier. I was using it to poke around f-list's and tumblr's nooks and nannies, two sites which I feel have nice interfaces. I understand what it is for but I doubt it will be much use to me right now, but later.

I am more concerned with the tedium of learning much coding first.

Yes, I know a lot of HTML, PHP and CSS
But I don't do projects because I'm lazy :D

alirezatm said:
Yes, I know a lot of HTML, PHP and CSS
But I don't do projects because I'm lazy :D

PHP seems good but I was thinking about Python for some unknown reason.

Ozelot said:
PHP seems good but I was thinking about Python for some unknown reason.

Python > Php. Requires a bit more work, but well worth it in the long run due to speed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Server_Gateway_Interface
with http://www.makotemplates.org/

Chaser said:
Python > Php. Requires a bit more work, but well worth it in the long run due to speed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Server_Gateway_Interface
with http://www.makotemplates.org/

I dunno. Looks like PHP means you get a job.