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MsLumiere
MemberSo hot
DirtyRatMatt
MemberThat's quite a HUGE tip.
NyxArt
MemberWhy not he's been a good boy~
Qwazzy
MemberThe best kind of tip for such a cute mouse.
BlackBird666
MemberThat's a lot more than just a tip...
SexyMan621
MemberNyxartstation did reggie justice, cutest mouse ever drawn in an adorable artstyle
humanoidonlooker
MemberReggy is still living his best life
burner626
Memberhe really got shafted on the tip
Chocobocobo
MemberSame
NyxArt
MemberThank you <3 <3
Timidly
MemberTop tier stuff right here
CuddleDrivenPony
MemberI still to this day really wish Femboy Hooters was a real thing so I could work there
Beep
MemberHe got the tip and everything that follows.
yifffish
MemberHilarious that femboy hooters is notorious enough to deserve a copyright tag
Qwazzy
MemberThis ain't AI, chief.
NyxArt
MemberDude I stream my art on discord please don't come here with that
EOC
Memberhttps://e621.net/posts/4637734
Looking at this old post of yours, the hand looks to be ai generated
NyxArt
Memberits not i streamed that one too i didnt finish it because i didnt know how that post is from basically when i first started
Unnoon
MemberI’d like to see you actually make your claim and stream you drawing on some other service than Discord, or better yet, show a time-lapse on one of your other medias. I see some subtle hints that these some, if not most of these pictures are not 100% hand-drawn and most likely used as some form of AI-generation.
IchHabs
MemberI have looked at everything myself and would like some explanations too.
If it turns out that Nyx is just super sloppy, then whatever, fair enough. I am just worried.
NyxArt
Memberim talking to someone right now proving i make my art i am sloppy but i know my word means nothing on the internet so bare with me till this is settled thank you
Weture
MemberAlso check post #4966719
Whygena
MemberThis artist is 100% legit and I apologize for starting the rumor that their art is Ai. They do not use Ai, they do not trace. I have been talking with them and going through their stuff and there is no shenanigans afoot here
Unnoon
MemberWell then, I'd like to apologize for my comment I'd made. My only reason was that I followed the beliefs from Whygena's previous tweet claiming it was AI. Then I looked at a lot of your art and only looked at it negatively from there. I just saw Nyx's recent tweet of them showing a video of them sketching their recent art. I've blind-sighted myself for only viewing your art bad and I feel bad for doing so.
NyxArt
MemberPlease don't feel bad its completely ok I'm not upset at anyone! ❤️
burner626
Memberyeah but everyone knows you're just a highly sophisticated AI program that just happens to operate one some old meat based hardware that the devs wont even let you upgrade or give you spare parts for anymore.
NyxArt
Memberyou know too much 😐
clunklord
Member@whygena, i already made a comment elsewhere about my concerns, but i feel i should place more details here. Most of this i typed out a week ago. This was primarily made to manage my own nerves.
I'm not convinced that nyxart is innocent. i'll preface this by saying 1: that i made this account with the explicit purpose to type this out,
2: that i say all this more to help
my anxiety and shakiness more than anything, my paranoia coming from the AI flood over in reggie's tag on rule34, and
3: i checked on my own before whygena made the accusation, and already came to my own conclusion.
This is a bit of a long one
Even though nyx has a video timelapse of their drawing, and they stream their drawings, the streaming software they use is likely using a "capture window" style of recording, which doesn't show any windows placed on top.
This would allow them to use a "see through windows" option to overlay another picture over their art software without it being seen by the viewers.
See:
https://www.mobzystems.com/tools/seethroughwindows/
Their behavior after getting labelled AI is also notable, lashing out at every who calls it so, and going as far as calling whygena gullible.
Furthermore, rule34 was flooded with AI generated works on reggie, mimicking a suspiciously similar style to nyx.
See:
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=reggie_%28whygena%29+ai_generated+&pid=0
All of nyx's works seem to have inconsistancies the like of which are consistantly made by AI.
See brazillian miku's strange earings, toes eyelashes and fingers:
https://art.ngfiles.com/medium_views/5988000/5988204_1141423_nyxart_brazilian-miku.fc3113a3cdc3f86cec09aa6a7530df69.webp?f1724770564
And nicole watterson's eyelash dilemma:
https://art.ngfiles.com/images/5976000/5976092_1126382_nyxart_nicole.b2efc0b212967ba408522ef66f21f767.webp?f1724378168
I believe they've tricked you, whygena. Which i don't blame you for, this stuff is stupid and complicated. Again, this is more for my own anxiety than to prove that anybody is guilty or anything, please don't take this the wrong way.
It's incredibly frustrating that i feel this way about all this.
sorry it's so long
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NyxArt
MemberI'm not sure but i already went over most of this in whygenas DMs which is why im not taking this seriously and I'm not sure what "capture windows" are but i made that piece from scratch and the time laps looks the way all timelapse on clip studio paint do and ill be happy to also send you the original file i react the way i do because i dont hate anyone that likes me or not i comment on everyone and react calmly to question or concerns im not a expert in being a online artist seeing i just started but i still try hard to help I've talked with a lot of people that's pointed out the same things as you and ive gave them the same answer i gave whygena if you are still concerned you can contact me on my X newgrounds or even discord and please dont feel bad or beat yourself up if you were false all my followers mean a lot to me even the negative ones so please clunk lord i really do hope you feel better soon ~Nyx!
clunklord
Memberi can imagine you not knowing what "capture window" means, since i am using terminology from the niche screen recorder i toy around with, it just means it records only what the program you're trying to record would show, even if it's covered up by some other program. you likely use discord's screen share stuff, which does that too.
the original file would not prove anything. the timelapse would not be affected with the method i'm describing. i'm stating that you've used a transparent image that you can click through for tracing. one that wouldn't be seen in discord's screen sharing view.
in all of your works, there are a lot of strange inconsistencies, some of which are consistent. eyelashes and feet being weird, jewellery being heavily mismatched, to name three examples. here,
i'm not sure why a real artist wouldn't just draw a new angle or pose for the 3rd panel. at this point, wouldn't it make sense to just copy panel 2 and just change some really small things? tons of people do that.
panel 2 and 3 just look like you told an AI something along the lines of "now draw him face down, in a pillow getting fucked" and then "now draw him blushing and cumming"
i genuinely believe that you trace AI generated imagery. i don't believe you can prove your innocence to me.
also maybe look into using punctuation for your replies, it's unrelated and nitpicky but it helps your credibility, just a little bit.
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mistys ref
Memberwhatever floats your boat dude how i spell is my concern and i already dealt with this last week and it and finished it im not doing it again im going to keep drawing you can keep looking if it makes you feel better but but i just dont care enough to show you why
somewhatarat
MemberThe brown thing in the background throws me off also lol
clunklord
Member"you can contact me on my X newgrounds or even discord"
to
"i just dont care enough to show you why"
is a true combo, turns out. so few frames, too...
i've sent this guy a message elsewhere, and all i really got was a rant about how i'm "another person on the internet" and how if i hate their stuff so much i can just block them. i really can't just block them though, since the way i look at twitter doesn't allow me to block, reply to, or text anybody, and whygena has retweeted their stuff, but that's beside the point. pretty interesting response, overall, since you state that you've sent proof to other people, but refuse to for me, the guy questioning your process.
i'm gonna lay this out. i don't think you can prove that you don't trace AI. this isn't because i'm stubborn or stuck in my ways or anything. it's because i doubt you have anything that would truly prove this. you would never have the proof you need, if your whole career is just AI tracing.
mistys ref
Memberwell your coming to my dm's saying "there's no point on sending you proof because you wont believe it" so why would i waste my time trying to argue with some random furry online
clunklord
Member"you can send me whatever proof you have that you don't trace AI. i probably won't believe any of it, but worth a shot i suppose."
this is, copy/pasted, what i sent. still, not showing anything, and instead lashing out at me, is a decently good sign, to me, that you don't WANT me to see this proof, for whatever reason.
mistys ref
Memberdid i not show my evidence to the people that asked at the moment its been a week i don't care anymore
clunklord
Memberyou may have shown them, but i haven't seen it, and i know of the technologies that would be in play if you are tracing AI. from my eyes, it looks like you're hiding something, rather than it just being that you don't care.
carnivore4lyf
MemberCan we get back to enjoying a furry
ratmouse femboy Eldritch spellcaster please?clunklord
Memberi believe they traced AI generated slop, deceived whygena into thinking it's not that, and that he's a jerk for thinking it is. they aren't helping their case by lashing out. i don't think AI slop is even allowed here.
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mistys ref
Memberat this point your harassing me i legit already showed everything i have and yet you still complain you dont even know me or my art process im pretty sure you could be doing other things for your on life not instigating mines
clunklord
Memberyou have not shown anything you have to me. the only bit of your art process i've seen is the timelapse i saw on your twitter. also funny that you jump straight to abuse accusations, while you're exploiting people's trust and posting generated works.
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mistys ref
Memberalright dude you do i got better things to do like i said cya
clunklord
Memberflagged for "tracing another artist's work" since AI imagery is just other people's stolen works, thrown into a machine, and this is a trace of that AI stuff. just leaving this for whoever checks that.
mistys ref
MemberSo what your saying is you think my art is AI with no way to prove it since I already proved the same people wrong and your upset and sticking to your opinion because I'm choosing with my own right not to show you some random person my art files that I already showed to the person I made the fanart for in the first place because when the rumor started alot of people switched and started all of a sudden seeing things too then apologized after they were wrong your going off of straight intuition and harassing me not because I'm scared of a random person but because this has been going on for almost 2 weeks your a adult act like one
clunklord
Memberi'm not just some guy on the internet, i'm some guy on the internet who has the technological knowhow to say with absolute certainty that you're a hack.
it's funny you're saying i'm "going off of straight intuition" when i have provided proof backing my claims above. your refusal to provide me proof, when i've gone far more in-depth and technical than i'd guess anybody else has, says to me that you're scared i would find more evidence for my end.
AI image generators have a set of things they are particularly bad at. simple things that humans don't normally make mistakes with as regularly as you do.
i'll tell you now that there is just about one thing that can really prove to me that you don't trace AI, something only real artists have. and at this point, you're gonna need a lot of that. i won't tell you what it is, because if you're real, you should already know.
somewhatarat
MemberInconsistent anatomy, inconsistent shading, inconsistent background with a weird brown thing on a second panel, the hooters logo on the shirt is different from the Parent post, Reggie's facial features are inconsistent, his mouth is somewhat smudged on a second panel (in a way no person could do), his eyelashes are hella inconsistent and range from two to three and their thickness is always too weird, the eyes look like an attempt at generic anime eyes, which AI assumed Reggie's eyes were, it can't comprehend the pies, the AI assumed that his nips were shadows, so there is a strange pink spot on his chest on the second panel, the AI assumed that the bulge in the shorts would be of a vagina, so it looks more like pussy, not a sack, do I even need to say more? Because I can. Also, I did go through your posts and even the cat, that you've had as your pfp, has some obvious AI features.
somewhatarat
MemberIf it wasn't for me being busy at the moment, I could've send you a whole document with pictures included
mistys ref
MemberWell I prefer to take this convo to discord you guys are taking up the comment section and e621 has a type
max my user is cra8zy
clunklord
Memberwell i prefer this convo remains public, and on the page that i'm personally upset about. this way, it would be clear that i'm not faking the texts, or leaving anything out, should i need to share anything. your frequent outbursts should remain here. if you do still have that proof you're hiding, you have my newgrounds. and if the mods feel strongly about this, then they'll do something.
also my discord is gonna remain private.
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mistys ref
Membersuit yourself dude i know what I'm doing I know I'm not AI and how long i learned to draw so you can point out all you need i genially couldn't care less mind you i dont get paid for this as you see so i don't have to act formal or care peace ima do some shenanigans!
clunklord
Member"I don't get paid for this" Aren't you looking to set up a patreon? also, don't you take commissions?
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somewhatarat
MemberWell I'd prefer for you to respond to the points I've made right there. I don't need to see any layers and stuff you said you've been showing, I need you to answer up
clunklord
Member... and i have yet to even SEE any proof. besides what was posted on twitter, which is far from enough.
clunklord
Memberalright, i've thought about it for a minute, so i'm gonna be blunt here. no hints or nothing. maybe english isn't your first language or something, so i should account for that.
TLDR: you should publicly upload several recent drawings from a physical sketch book or something, if you've drawn in anything like that, to show that you're not tracing AI. the more the merrier. having public physical sketches will even deter other people from making these accusations. if you aren't legitimate, i'd say i have a decently good eye for seeing that.
elaboration, coming right up. earlier, i'd have been fine with using 2 pictures of your physical work in my newgrounds PMs as enough proof. but, with your attitude this whole time, repeatedly saying that you don't use AI rather than provide counter arguments or anything, 2 privately shared shots aren't enough anymore.
your works look extremely like these posts on rule34: https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=user%3awiggy55
all of your works have insanely weird oddities, such as significantly mismatched jewellery, eyelashes and the sort.
here's the jewellery example:
https://art.ngfiles.com/medium_views/5988000/5988204_1141423_nyxart_brazilian-miku.fc3113a3cdc3f86cec09aa6a7530df69.webp?f1724770564
here's the eyelashes example:
https://art.ngfiles.com/images/5976000/5976092_1126382_nyxart_nicole.b2efc0b212967ba408522ef66f21f767.webp?f1724378168
plus, the backgrounds in your comics tend to not look like they take place in the same room. even this reggie piece is a good enough example for that.
you use an art program that does not have any private layers that are hidden from timelapses, and you stream your work. however, there are apps to tip-toe around this.
here's the "see through windows" program as an example.
https://www.mobzystems.com/tools/seethroughwindows/
as for the discord streaming, discord's screen sharing system does not show programs that are on top of what you're recording. it would record the art program, but not the workaround.
if you're legit, i'm sorry for dragging this out so long, and insulting you like this. i should've started with this kind of suggestion forever ago. i was just too shaky to even begin to think of any other way.
if you're not legit, please disregard the above statement.
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Versperus
ModeratorEnough. No more arguments or debates here, or we'll start handing out disruptive records.
clunklord
Memberfair enough, i did say "if the mods feel strongly about this"
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LBZ wild
MemberThis the sound of a robot BINGALALAP
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