So, I'm a gamer, and I'm really excited about Fallout 4, and for some reason a few places I've gone have brought up furries. Why? Well they're saying furries would complain about not being able to romance Dogmeat in Fallout 4... (In Fallout 4 you can romance any of the human companions, regardless of gender.) I just feel it's really strange people's first thought are Furries instead of how cool it is to have romances in Fallout! What are your thoughts? Are you sad you can't romance Dogmeat? ;)

One word: Mods.

Jade_Angel said:
Are you sad you can't romance Dogmeat? ;)

I think being able to man the door gun on the Vertibird just barely makes up for that horrible injustice.

What's more of an injustice is it's no obsidian devloping it and instead Beth will run the game into the ground

is DogMeat the German shepherd from the trailer?

im sorry i rarely play fallout so...

RustyTorpedo said:
What's more of an injustice is it's no obsidian devloping it and instead Beth will run the game into the ground

Fallout 3 was better than New Vegas. NV suffered a lot from the forced progression route you bad to take.

NotMeNotYou said:
Fallout 3 was better than New Vegas. NV suffered a lot from the forced progression route you bad to take.

You aren't forced on any route in New Vegas. One area is just HIGHLY more dangerous to go at level 1 than the other.

Ozelot said:
You aren't forced on any route in New Vegas. One area is just HIGHLY more dangerous to go at level 1 than the other.

If you play vanilla the deathclaws have such attributes that they will see and kill you even with a stealthboy and 100 sneaking.
Sure, you can wall jump and kill them slowly by standing in a place they can't reach but that isn't proper gameplay.

NotMeNotYou said:
If you play vanilla the deathclaws have such attributes that they will see and kill you even with a stealthboy and 100 sneaking.
Sure, you can wall jump and kill them slowly by standing in a place they can't reach but that isn't proper gameplay.

You can go straight to the strip from the start of the game without even going near a deathclaw. No mods or glitches needed. Also on the hardest setting.

Ozelot said:
You can go straight to the strip from the start of the game without even going near a deathclaw. No mods or glitches needed. Also on the hardest setting.

Climb over the mountain a little, through the Tribal Village, down to the National Park and you're practically there. Watch out for the fiends. (Plus, you can grab Chance's Knife)

Ozelot said:
You can go straight to the strip from the start of the game without even going near a deathclaw. No mods or glitches needed. Also on the hardest setting.

Yeah have fun waltzing through Bonnie Springs and that rock pass filled with cazadores.

NotMeNotYou said:
Fallout 3 was better than New Vegas. NV suffered a lot from the forced progression route you bad to take.

Fallout 3's moral choices were too simplistic for me.

Cactus said:
Yeah have fun waltzing through Bonnie Springs and that rock pass filled with cazadores.

You can just run away from cazadors if you cripple their wings, cripple their antenna and they're actually just kill each other.

NotMeNotYou said:
Fallout 3 was better than New Vegas. NV suffered a lot from the forced progression route you bad to take.

NV had better writing, story, characters and lore. Basically all the important things in a Fallout game

RustyTorpedo said:
NV had better writing, story, characters and lore. Basically all the important things in a Fallout game

Fallout 3 was better because you can visit my neighborhood :v

You wouldn't fuck a virtual dog would you?

Moon_Moon said:
You wouldn't fuck a virtual dog would you?

Yes. Yes I would.

Moon_Moon said:
You wouldn't fuck a virtual dog would you?

This. Seriously. Dogmeat is a Domestic Canine, a pet. If you want to romance Dogmeat, get a mod that replaces him with an anthropomorphic dog person.

Furrin_Gok said:
This. Seriously. Dogmeat is a Domestic Canine, a pet. If you want to romance Dogmeat, get a mod that replaces him with an anthropomorphic dog person.

It's A-OK if the dog is sapient
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Boy_and_His_Dog_%281975_film%29

fallout pretty bad in my opinion, I've tried it and you basically have to grind rats just get level 2, and anything that isn't a rat usually kills you as level 1. It's just like every final fantasy game, you play it for an hour and get bored and quit and never play it agian.

First time i played a fallout game (3) i remember completely ignoring instructions and going to town, got 1 shot and gave the game back to my friend, now i've finished it twice..

memeboy said:
fallout pretty bad in my opinion, I've tried it and you basically have to grind rats just get level 2, and anything that isn't a rat usually kills you as level 1. It's just like every final fantasy game, you play it for an hour and get bored and quit and never play it agian.

Which game exactly were you playing? I've been able to take on bandits and scorpions from level 1.

Furrin_Gok said:
This. Seriously. Dogmeat is a Domestic Canine, a pet. If you want to romance Dogmeat, get a mod that replaces him with an anthropomorphic dog person.

You seem to have missed the "virtual" part of this. Whether you are pro or anti zoophilia is irrelevant in this case, because Dogmeat doesn't actually exist. Why would you need to replace him with an anthropomorphic dog-person to make it okay in your eyes? If you could, please include in your answer why it is perfectly acceptable to kill Dogmeat, but romance is out of the question.

That said, I'm a bit of a zoophile-activist, so really I found your post frustrating from beginning to end.

if i cant romance a Suit of T51B power armor ima be pissed

Furrin_Gok said:
Which game exactly were you playing? I've been able to take on bandits and scorpions from level 1.

Fallout 1

Clawdragons said:
That said, I'm a bit of a zoophile-activist

We noticed...

RustyTorpedo said:
if i cant romance a Suit of T51B power armor ima be pissed

Where's my vertibird romance?

memeboy said:
fallout pretty bad in my opinion, I've tried it and you basically have to grind rats just get level 2, and anything that isn't a rat usually kills you as level 1. It's just like every final fantasy game, you play it for an hour and get bored and quit and never play it agian.

G8 b8 m8

RustyTorpedo said:
G8 b8 m8

He's talking about the first one.

And he's not lying.

Actinium-89 said:
He's talking about the first one.

And he's not lying.

>Playing an RPG
>Complaining because it has RPG mechanics

Ozelot said:
>Playing an RPG
>Complaining because it has RPG mechanics

Playing devil's advocate : the first Fallout was painful.

Pick wrong character, start game - killed by rats because you literally cannot shoot (More likely to shoot and hit yourself somehow) and cannot hit things in melee. Good start.

Actinium-89 said:
He's talking about the first one.

And he's not lying.

>playing a fallout game for the combat
Loluwotm8?

Once you get past shady sands/Klamath in either game the combat gets easier. Hell, in 1 you can always head straight for enclave base and pick up power armor and a plasma rifle right off the bat if your into that sort of thing.

Besides, wtf stats are you picking and what are you doing that you continuously get wrecked by the starting npcs?

RustyTorpedo said:
>playing a fallout game for the combat
Loluwotm8?

Once you get past shady sands/Klamath in either game the combat gets easier. Hell, in 1 you can always head straight for enclave base and pick up power armor and a plasma rifle right off the bat if your into that sort of thing.

Besides, wtf stats are you picking and what are you doing that you continuously get wrecked by the starting npcs?

I can't tell if you just didn't read the post properly, CAN'T read, or ignored it to fanboy up.

Either way I'm impressed by your lack of redeeming qualities.

Ozelot said:
You can just run away from cazadors if you cripple their wings, cripple their antenna and they're actually just kill each other.

>crippling something that moves like a squirrel on meth and dealing with 5 of them at once
you obviously didn't hardmode.

Cactus said:
>crippling something that moves like a squirrel on meth and dealing with 5 of them at once
you obviously didn't hardmode.

One word: explosives.

i'm not a fan of Bethesda's games, unless they're modded heavily to the point where I can't even recognize them.

Just personal preference

Actinium-89 said:
I can't tell if you just didn't read the post properly, CAN'T read, or ignored it to fanboy up.

Either way I'm impressed by your lack of redeeming qualities.

What slanderous attacks hast thou thrown against my good name, thou contemptible wench? Whereas I have risen even unto the foremost rank in the Royal Admiralty; whereas I have on many an occasion partaken in clandestine crusades against the Saracens; whereas by mine hands have fallen barbarians numbering some fifteen score; whereas I am most skilled in the ways of the ape warrior; whereas I am the premier marksman amongst all of our Kingdom's knights: Thou art in my sights but yet another quarry. The Lord be my witness, I shall smite thee as no-one under the sun hath heretofore been smitten. Dost thou deign to fancy thyself secure to cast thy spittle upon my face from behind the Spider's Veil? Then thou hast wandered into grievous error. Yea, even at this very moment, I am sending word across the land to my fellow Templars, and the provenance of thy scrivenings shall in short time become known unto me. A veritable maelstrom of vengeance is upon thy gates, thou wretched worm, which surely shall obliterate thy loathsome pretension of life. Truly, thou art foregone, child. I move as swift as the wind, and with mine own two hands I may at my pleasure slay thee in any of thirty and five score modes. For verily as I am a master in the pugilistic arts, even so doth the manifold armory of the Royal Guard lie at my beck and call, which in its plenitude of power I shall not delay to unleash upon thee, that thy fœtid flesh may no longer pollute this land with its presence, thou pitiful putrescence. Would that thou couldst have foreseen what great wrath thou hast by thy "brazen" jocosity summoned upon thyself! Perhaps thou wouldst have rather kept shut thy filth-spewing mouth. But neither couldst thou thus foresee, nor didst thou take heed of prudence, and thou art now reaping what thou hast sown, thou accursèd simpleton. I will excrete rage all round about thee, wherein shalt thou be consumed. Thou hast shuffled off this mortal coil, urchin.

Clawdragons said:
You seem to have missed the "virtual" part of this. Whether you are pro or anti zoophilia is irrelevant in this case, because Dogmeat doesn't actually exist. Why would you need to replace him with an anthropomorphic dog-person to make it okay in your eyes? If you could, please include in your answer why it is perfectly acceptable to kill Dogmeat, but romance is out of the question.

That said, I'm a bit of a zoophile-activist, so really I found your post frustrating from beginning to end.

please include in your answer why it is perfectly acceptable to kill Dogmeat

Wait wait wait WHAT. That is not okay, man. Look, I've lived around mostly friendly neighborhoods, but one horrible thing I see all the time is abused dogs. The idea of a person abusing dogs frustrates me. I understand that some things are fake, fictional, etc, but with dogs I just can't think of it in that way.
Munkel is right, though; if a dog is sapient and aware of the consequences, then there's no problem with its consent.

Actinium-89 said:
He's talking about the first one.

And he's not lying.

It might be difficult to take on scorpions, but it's possible. Bandits are actually quite easy. Sure, you can't aim worth a penny, and your melee skills will likely suck, but spend AP to run up to them and fire point blank and you win.

I agree. Abusing dogs is terrible. I am a very strong proponent of animal rights. The idea that people abuse dogs also is incredibly frustrating to me.

Maybe it's just because I'm tired, but having this argument in relation to Fallout is not appealing to me, so I'm going to drop it. I guess I'll send you a PM instead, so as to not drive things off topic here.

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Airduinec said:
But Dogmeat isn't sapient. Thus zoophilia.

Nothing in the definition of zoophilia has anything to do with whether or not the nonhuman is sapient.

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