Topic: The tag "the_end"

Posted under General

Recently I realized there is a tag with 201 posts under it called "the_end" with no wiki page.
I made a new wiki page reading "Text indicating the end of a sequence" since that's what a majority of posts with this tag contain.
I need feedback and improvements to this because I feel that this may be an inadequate description of the tag which fails to do it justice.

Tl;DR: here is my suggested entry for the_end:

post #2477517 post #2395856 post #2165600 post #2054318
"The end" is a phrase commonly used on the last page of a comic or series of images, frequently placed along the bottom. This tag is for any image with text used in the same way. Variations include, for example, "End", "Fin", "End of chapter", and "The end...?". Also use this tag for "the end" when used in other languages.

...So I guess it's supposed to be for literal text in the image? Like good_boy/homophobic_slur?

Do we want to allow "the end" in other languages? For example, post #2262678 has "конец" which Google translate tells me is "The end". I vote yes. Admittedly, there are images I can't verify, because they're in Japanese: post #28079, post #344788, post #413000.

Do we want to allow images that have the phrase "the end" anywhere e.g. dialogue or proper names? I found two examples:
post #291007, which transcribes: "Alicorn Twilight (At least how I want her to look like) INB4 The End of MLP".
post #255826, where the title of the comic is "THE END".
I vote no. That definition would make some things simpler, but it would be harder to justify allowing variant phrases.

Examples of variants of the_end
Images I will untag in a week

I think the following images were tagged with the_end erroneously. I will remove the tag from them in a week if nobody has any complaints.

The last image in a pool/comic: post #44826, post #129456, post #139360, post #687451, post #785213, post #867133, post #1331122, post #1891688, post #1886561, post #1918874, post #2032749, post #2238631, post #2651257, post #2947395, post #62816, post #49438
The name of the comic is "the end" by James M. Hardiman: post #261447, post #261763
Character/species name? post #1187980 Taken care of by other tags.
Imminent death/apocalypse: post #269522, post #2308048, post #98685
The end of Calvin and Hobbes, for some reason: post #139361, post #138529, post #4373
To be continued: post #2312695, post #1322112, post #1152340, post #549083. to_be_continued is its own tag.

Updated

I'll go a head and implement this now.

Does anybody have an opinion about to_be_continued? It seems to be used for both the jojo's_bizarre_adventure meme and for the literal text. It was implied to meme in topic #27063, along with a whole bunch of others. Furrin Gok opposed making to_be_continued a meme. I'm inclined to leave it as a meme (too late now), and move the non-meme posts to to_be_continued_(text) or something.

Something like

How exactly would the tag work? For example, post #3216621 is a comic page marked -End-, but the actual end page is the next one, post #3216629. Then there's various comics where each chapter is marked with an "End", but the story continues (sometimes uninterrupted) in the next chapter. I don't think a tag specifically and only for a page saying some variation of The End will be too useful, given it has false positives, and it would be too enticing to use it on final comic pages that don't actually say The End.

watsit said:
How exactly would the tag work? For example, post #3216621 is a comic page marked -End-, but the actual end page is the next one, post #3216629.

Yes. The earlier post would get the tag, because it is the one with the text. There are "false positives" if your goal is finding "the last page of x". Although, many comics have the_end on the last "contentful" page. I wouldn't consider a "credits" page to be part of the comic, and the_end hews closer to the intentions of the artist.

watsit said:
I don't think a tag specifically and only for a page saying some variation of The End will be too useful, given it has false positives, and it would be too enticing to use it on final comic pages that don't actually say The End.

I don't think it's for for finding "the last page of a comic". It's just a common visual element. If someone has an image and is trying to find a source, it would be useful then. Admittedly, it's not much use otherwise.

Also, as you noted, a lot of images did get the tag just for being the last post of a comic: post #44826, post #129456, post #139360, post #687451, post #785213, post #867133, post #1331122, post #1891688, post #1886561, post #1918874, post #2032749, post #2238631, post #2651257, post #2947395, post #62816, post #49438 Maybe it will be troublesome to maintain.

Would you prefer invalidation instead? Change the name to the_end_(text) to prevent confusion? Or maybe make it a metatag based on something less disputable, like "the last post in a pool"?

matrixmash said:
Would you prefer invalidation instead? Change the name to the_end_(text) to prevent confusion? Or maybe make it a metatag based on something less disputable, like "the last post in a pool"?

I'm not sure, to be honest. the_end_(text) seems rather silly, since the tag would be fairly useless if it's limited to pages that just say "The End". It's use could range from character dialog saying "the end", maybe an album or cover page titled The End, or a comic page saying The End (or some variation, like End, Fin, Done, Finish, etc) that may or may not be the last page of the comic, while plenty of comics that don't end with any such text won't be tagged. It'd be pretty sloppily defined and applied.

What would be nice is a way to search for posts that are the final page of a pool. That seems to essentially be the idea behind the tag.

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