The 2016 Summer Olympics is going on now from August 5 to August 21

...okay? and?

Well yeah. Opening ceremony was 5 days ago :V

Most peeps on here (furries in general imo) aren't sports-type peeps so they don't really care about it.

I've enjoyed the oly lifting. Always fun to see light, thin people throw up huge weights

Poofing should be an Olympic sport to see who can poof the most.

Chaser said:
Poofing should be an Olympic sport to see who can poof the most.

yes

TheHuskyK9 said:
Most peeps on here (furries in general imo) aren't sports-type peeps so they don't really care about it.

You callin' us fat?!

Well, you're probably right.

rezi said:
I've enjoyed the oly lifting. Always fun to see light, thin people throw up huge weights

Me too. That always intrigues me.

Speaking of, strength doesn't have to come from "big" muscles. It usually come from "dense" muscles. (The longer the crossing your fibrous lattices are, the stronger you can be per square inch of muscle, regardless of how much muscles you actually have.)

That said, I wonder if there is an exercise routine to "condense" your muscles, rather than "build" them.

RedDragonDude said:
The 2016 Summer Olympics is going on now from August 5 to August 21

I like rooting for other countries based on who I like most times. Is that weird?

None of the American athletes very much interest me. I just root for "Bolt" in track and field, and I like to see what Sweden and Ireland are up to as a whole more than any other country. No real reason why, I just do.

Kristal_Candeo said:
That said, I wonder if there is an exercise routine to "condense" your muscles, rather than "build" them.

I know pretty much nothing about the biology behind it, but the longstanding broscience is:

• low-reps, high weight -> mostly strength increases
• high-reps, low weight -> mostly size increases

From some studies I've read, there's some merit to that, but the differences don't seem to be terribly huge and there's quite a lot of overlap. With oly lifts especially, there's a huge technique component too, so that's probably another reason why they aren't too big.

rezi said:
I know pretty much nothing about the biology behind it, but the longstanding broscience is:

• low-reps, high weight -> mostly strength increases
• high-reps, low weight -> mostly size increases

From some studies I've read, there's some merit to that, but the differences don't seem to be terribly huge and there's quite a lot of overlap. With oly lifts especially, there's a huge technique component too, so that's probably another reason why they aren't too big.

I would imagine placebo is just as effective for many people, i.e. if you think training a certain way benefit you more, it will. Placebo and the human mind should never be underestimated.

Chessax said:
I would imagine placebo is just as effective for many people, i.e. if you think training a certain way benefit you more, it will. Placebo and the human mind should never be underestimated.

Totally. Mindset's such a huge thing. Also, really really weird when you think about it too much. Some of the thing's placebo can do are crazy, like fake surgery that's just as effective as the real

rezi said:
Totally. Mindset's such a huge thing. Also, really really weird when you think about it too much. Some of the thing's placebo can do are crazy, like fake surgery that's just as effective as the real

It is really amazing, indeed.

From what I hear, studies have actually shown that if one truly, deeply fantasizes about excersizing without actually doing it (meaning if you deeply focus constantly about lifting weights but not do it) it can result in almost as much increased strength as actually exercising.

Given this,

Kristal_Candeo said:
It is really amazing, indeed.

From what I hear, studies have actually shown that if one truly, deeply fantasizes about excersizing without actually doing it (meaning if you deeply focus constantly about lifting weights but not do it) it can result in almost as much increased strength as actually exercising.

Given this,

I always wondered:

If we decided to make a training grounds for, say, lifting weights, and while we trained people to lift weights, the weights they were lifting were labeled incorrectly (in a way that if a person trained and lifted a weight labeled 300lbs, but that weight was actually significantly less, meaning it was actually 200lbs not 300lbs) would that placebo mindset of being able to lift 300lbs carry over and actually allow them to lift a weight that was correctly labeled as such?

That is: Could a person who is completely tricked into thinking and believing that they can lift significantly more than they truly can, actually lift that much weight in practice given the placebo mindset alone?

And could this work with other excercises too, like sprinting, whereas they think their top speed is 40-miles/hr, when it's way less, yet they can be coerced in practice to run at that exact speed using only the mindset that they can in the first place?

I'd like to see the results of that experiment?

Pretty skeptical of the 100% mental strategy. I'm not sure you can purely will your muscles into getting micro-tears. Still, both would be quite interesting experiments.

Kristal_Candeo said:
It is really amazing, indeed.

From what I hear, studies have actually shown that if one truly, deeply fantasizes about excersizing without actually doing it (meaning if you deeply focus constantly about lifting weights but not do it) it can result in almost as much increased strength as actually exercising.

Given this,

I always wondered:

If we decided to make a training grounds for, say, lifting weights, and while we trained people to lift weights, the weights they were lifting were labeled incorrectly (in a way that if a person trained and lifted a weight labeled 300lbs, but that weight was actually significantly less, meaning it was actually 200lbs not 300lbs) would that placebo mindset of being able to lift 300lbs carry over and actually allow them to lift a weight that was correctly labeled as such?

That is: Could a person who is completely tricked into thinking and believing that they can lift significantly more than they truly can, actually lift that much weight in practice given the placebo mindset alone?

And could this work with other excercises too, like sprinting, whereas they think their top speed is 40-miles/hr, when it's way less, yet they can be coerced in practice to run at that exact speed using only the mindset that they can in the first place?

I'd like to see the results of that experiment?

If you were to suddenly lift more than your body could handle, your muscles would start to tear, placebo or not. There would be additional growth thanks to believing you're lifting more when you aren't, but if you take it too quick, you'll definitely hurt yourself.

Furrin_Gok said:
If you were to suddenly lift more than your body could handle, your muscles would start to tear, placebo or not. There would be additional growth thanks to believing you're lifting more when you aren't, but if you take it too quick, you'll

…die before you can finish your next sentence? D:

Fenrick said:
…die before you can finish your next sentence? D:

Now that's odd, I thought I finished the post. It is now.

Fenrick said:
…die before you can finish your next sentence? D:

Okay, that was hilarious.

Perfect timing on that text glitch, internet.

RedDragonDude said:
The 2016 Summer Olympics is going on now from August 5 to August 21

Meh. I'll miss it again. I really don't care much about those sports. I prefer motor stuff.

@Fenrick, made me lol (literally).

However, another important thing to know about placebo and the human mind is that it shouldn't be overestimated. They can't make you do more than you can, only make sure you do all you can.

@Kristal, regarding your experiment, the short answer is, no. Tricking someone is at best going to prove that they can indeed do more than they are or at worst you'll leave them self-deprecating and/or injured. The gains for someone already motivated (like competitive athletes) would probably be very small anyway.

Having gathered a bit of info, I feel like I'm the only one on this site who watches it. Normally I don't really watch sports (or TV for that), but when an event involves my country, I usually make an exception.

It's also nice to just watch a few sports you've never really seen in action before.

Hudson said:
It's also nice to just watch a few sports you've never really seen in action before, like epee.

Absolutely, that's why I personally like these kind of events.

However I'm not sure if you want to know the first thing that I thought about when seeing "epee", Épée wouldn't have caused that connotation.

Hudson said:
Having gathered a bit of info, I feel like I'm the only one on this site who watches it. Normally I don't really watch sports (or TV for that), but when an event involves my country, I usually make an exception.

It's also nice to just watch a few sports you've never really seen in action before.

I watch it

Chessax said:
However I'm not sure if you want to know the first thing that I thought about when seeing "epee", Épée wouldn't have caused that connotation.

_{I need to break the habit of constantly editing my posts after posting them...}

But yeah, Epee, Épée or just fencing, I've never really seen it in action that much, so that was nice for once. Never knew that they hook the players up like cyborgs before the actual fighting.

Hudson said:
_{I need to break the habit of constantly editing my posts after posting them...}

:P

Hudson said:
But yeah, Epee, Épée or just fencing, I've never really seen it in action that much, so that was nice for once. Never knew that they hook the players up like cyborgs before the actual fighting.

Heh, never thought about fencing as two cyborgs going at it, might make things even more interesting.

Hudson said:
_{I need to break the habit of constantly editing my posts after posting them...}

But yeah, Epee, Épée or just fencing, I've never really seen it in action that much, so that was nice for once. Never knew that they hook the players up like cyborgs before the actual fighting.

Just a wire we hook up to a machine to accurately tell touches. Makes it easier on the refs. Doesn't really get in the way and we're still have entirety of free movement

R-U-S-T-Y said:
Just a wire

She had so much electronic stuff going on that she reminded me of Cookie from Ned's Declassified.

Hudson said:
She had so much electronic stuff going on that she reminded me of Cookie from Ned's Declassified.

Epee is literally just a body cord runnning from the weapon, through the jacket down the rear of jacket, connected to a larger wire on a reel., that's it.

Foil and saber have a bit more. Both have the standerd weapon to wire bodycord. But the way scoring is handled, both require lames(big silver things they wear over jackets), a tiny cord with 2 clips(one clip to mask, the other to lame), they also have another small wire near the rear attached to the end of the body cord that connects to the larger wire, this tiny wire has a clip on it, that clips to the rear bottom of the lame.

That's it. All there is to it

Hudson said:
Having gathered a bit of info, I feel like I'm the only one on this site who watches it. Normally I don't really watch sports (or TV for that), but when an event involves my country, I usually make an exception.

It's also nice to just watch a few sports you've never really seen in action before.

I actually like to watch the games sometimes, and I especially make a point to watch the winter stuff, but I don't actually have a TV so... Yeah.

Usually I go to a bar to sit and watch it alone so that no one bothers me. But needless to say, I'd rather not do that again anytime soon.

R-U-S-T-Y said:
Epee is literally just a body cord runnning from the weapon, through the jacket down the rear of jacket, connected to a larger wire on a reel., that's it.

Foil and saber have a bit more. Both have the standerd weapon to wire bodycord. But the way scoring is handled, both require lames(big silver things they wear over jackets), a tiny cord with 2 clips(one clip to mask, the other to lame), they also have another small wire near the rear attached to the end of the body cord that connects to the larger wire, this tiny wire has a clip on it, that clips to the rear bottom of the lame.

That's it. All there is to it

Take an honest look (the video features closeups to their backs as well as to their electronic helmets). How many devices and wires does one need for a swordfight?

Hudson said:
Take an honest look (the video features closeups to their backs as well as to their electronic helmets). How many devices and wires does one need for a swordfight?

Clearly that's for the life support, not for the fencing.

Hudson said:
Take an honest look (the video features closeups to their backs as well as to their electronic helmets). How many devices and wires does one need for a swordfight?

no one uses those kinds of gay masks outside the olympics.

You only need what I just told you. Its a fucking swordfight, do you see how fast their moving? You need a machine to give a fair representation of who got who.