Topic: Something to propose: Uploading art made into an organized communal effort

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It's not a feature request per se, but more of a little something I'd like to organize with you all. It would be called "Wardens". (thank vex for that name)

Basically I'd like to help keeping all artists updated more frequently and consistently by organizing a sort of list of users and artists. Of Wardens and Wards. Let me explain. Each and every one of you could basically take the responsibility of uploading a certain artist's art from a certain platform (or multiple, but keep in mind consistency is more important).

Now this doesn't mean you can't upload anything else, you go right ahead, but if you expect to be able to consistently uploading one or a few artist's pieces as they're posted. It would be a great help as it would let everyone know this artist is taken care of so they in turn could turn their attention to consistently updating another.

For example, here would be my contribution and how I'd most likely lay it out (will be ordered by artist name):

Artist | Platform | Users
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Avante92 | Twitter | furryMaxime

Now obviously, it may be easier to keep a Google Drive Spreadsheet or something similar when the list becomes long enough, but we'll see at that point.

In the best of world, if everyone took one artist "under their wing", we would be able to consistently keep this website updated with all the latest art from all known artists with a lot of overlap; meaning there would be multiple people on the same artist to further increase frequency/consistency

Do you have any input/ideas of your own with this?
Would you want to be part of that list?
Wardens' discussion server: https://discord.gg/bW3C6pX

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It's a nice concept for sure. That'd be a really big spreadsheet.

There's things to think about with that list. What would happen, say if a consistent uploader got banned? What would happen to that uploaders wards? Would another user have to volunteer to take up the mantle and upload that artists works? Then there's "How would administration or other users be notified or know which artist uploader got banned"?

Could always just let people keep randomly upload what they can. I mean I kinda took a few artists under my wing voluntarily already. Then I'm uploading what I like from various artist galleries at a

S n a i l s p a c e

If this does happen, I want:

Hideki_kaneda and egocider as my wards

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It wouldn't initially be a really big spreadsheet as only the artists which are warded. But sure, I'd love it to be a huge spreadsheet, it would show this community cares haha

By the way I like that word, "ward", for this. It could be taken in many different ways, all of which fit this. Let's adopt it. Wardens and wards.

Well, there wouldn't be a need for notification until somehow this list becomes a website feature that somehow rewards users for warding and then following up on taking that responsibility by consistently uploading everything.

Even then, having someone pull out, or having to remove someone from the list, isn't necessarily a problem. Nothing stops multiple wardens on the same ward. Hell, I'd say overlap is a good thing, if one is not posting quickly/regularly enough, or really anything else happen to them the other(s) will compensate for it. Would also sometimes compensate for timezones too.

I like to think of the list to be a positive, without the lack of a ward on each artist to not necessarily be a negative. Think about it this way. If we have half the biggest artists warded, that means a good portion of the other people who usually post stuff will have to post stuff of the other, unmarked artists. That would mean the general turnup/accuracy of the archive would on average go up either way!

I'd like to discuss this further, and prehaps formulate a more complete post with explanation and FAQs to get the ball rolling. If you can, come over to the Discord server I've created specifically for this: https://discord.gg/bW3C6pX

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I used to upload everything by Furronika, but he stopped uploading.

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Munkelzahn said:
I used to upload everything by Furronika, but he stopped uploading.

Yeah, that happens sometimes.. and not always necessarily for the right reasons. :/
But hey, would you like to become a warden for another artist? I'm sure you have another favourite now! All that's asked is that you take it upon yourself to keep that artist's ward (page) up to date.

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furryMaxime said:
Yeah, that happens sometimes.. and not always necessarily for the right reasons. :/
But hey, would you like to become a warden for another artist? I'm sure you have another favourite now! All that's asked is that you take it upon yourself to keep that artist's ward (page) up to date.

Not at the moment.
If I find another artist that I really, really like, I'll let you know :)

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If this were to be a thing, don't forget to account for blacklists. Even some of my fav artists occasionally draw stuff I can't stand.

I'm not much of an uploader, especially now with my computer being bork, but I could handle skidoo.

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Pup

Privileged

As a quick thought I'd say to not include the platform, with different places having different qualities, for example, if one person uploads from FA and another from Twitter, then the FA one will probably get BVASd all the time, due to Twitter often having higher resolution images than FA.

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MyNameIsOver20charac said:
If this were to be a thing, don't forget to account for blacklists. Even some of my fav artists occasionally draw stuff I can't stand.

I'm not much of an uploader, especially now with my computer being bork, but I could handle skidoo.

That's where overlap (multiple Wardens on one Ward) comes in! It almost garantees as the number of Wardens increases that all content for a certain Ward will be posted. But I'll keep your name :)

Pupslut said:
As a quick thought I'd say to not include the platform, with different places having different qualities, for example, if one person uploads from FA and another from Twitter, then the FA one will probably get BVASd all the time, due to Twitter often having higher resolution images than FA.

That's a very good point. What do you think would be a better idea? Make the "Platform" column not a choice thing but instead a description of the best source(s) (ex: Twitter for high-res of finished pieces, Weasyl for sketches)? Or prehaps just shave it off entirely?

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Perhaps a link to the E6 artist URL page for the platform column?

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vex714 said:
Perhaps a link to the E6 artist URL page for the platform column?

Hmm, maybe just embedding the link into the artist name would be better for that. But good idea, I'll remember to link to the ward's page somehow

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That's a very good point. What do you think would be a better idea? Make the "Platform" column not a choice thing but instead a description of the best source(s) (ex: Twitter for high-res of finished pieces, Weasyl for sketches)? Or prehaps just shave it off entirely?

I'd say shave it off entirely. Twitter has issues with always (re?)compressing images (which isn't ideal, and not always the best version even if it's technically bigger), and FA can have large uncompressed png images if the user did the reupload trick (which has to be done per-image). On DA, a user may only set some of their images to allow downloading the original. Different sites may be better for different images from a given artist, so it's always best to check multiple sources when possible.

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I do like the idea of having dedicated people going trough dedicated artists, because there is definitely many artists where only new, explicit and/or some higher profile get posted and rest forgotten and lost into cyberspace.

Especially after tumblr case, there's already many artists whose content is extremely hard to access.

So if you can manage this, then go ahead. Just reminder that staff is not enforcing this in any way. Anyone can post anything at any time as long as it's going according to official guidelines and rules, so just because someone is warden of specific artist, doesn't mean anyone else cannot post that anymore.

Watsit said:
I'd say shave it off entirely. Twitter has issues with always (re?)compressing images (which isn't ideal, and not always the best version even if it's technically bigger), and FA can have large uncompressed png images if the user did the reupload trick (which has to be done per-image). On DA, a user may only set some of their images to allow downloading the original. Different sites may be better for different images from a given artist, so it's always best to check multiple sources when possible.

Artist uses DA, FA and Twitter.

  • Safe artwork posted on all places, going above 1280px in dimension, if DA has download button it's most likely highest quality.
  • Explicit artwork, most likely not posted on DA.
    • If resolution exceeds 1280px, Twitter is most likely superior.
    • If resolution is below 1280px in dimension or artwork is updated on later date, FA version is most likely superior.

There might be a reason why I generally hate most popular services, because they all seem to have some caviats if or when they are superior which isn't simple yes/no answer for even individual artists. Unless artist uses some good websites like Inkbunny, you pretty much have to double check their all available sources.

This is also reason why there's 10 lines in sources box.

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Mairo said:

  • Safe artwork posted on all places, going above 1280px in dimension, if DA has download button it's most likely highest quality.
  • Explicit artwork, most likely not posted on DA.
    • If resolution exceeds 1280px, Twitter is most likely superior.
    • If resolution is below 1280px in dimension or artwork is updated on later date, FA version is most likely superior.

With Twiiter, you also need to be mindful of the visible quality; the wiki mentions for Twitter

Only preferred if the content is in a much larger resolution than other sources.

I've run into at least one case where Twitter technically had the largest version, but it was only a couple dozen px larger with visibly more compression artifacts than another source.

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I've decided to upload all art by http://www.furaffinity.net/user/theguron/
(after asking the commissioners, character owners, etc.)

The artist has given me blanket permission:

You can upload all my missing art, I do actually enjoy when people repost my stuff and flood the internet with it. It provides me more recognition and more freaks can enjoy my shit ;)

So go on, feel free to reupload all my stuff you want

And his art is great for shocking people into a higher level of awareness.

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