Aliasing cervine_taur → deertaur
Link to alias

Reason:

Same thing. Deertaur has 216 posts while cervine_taur just has the one.

....but they are not same thing. or should we go ahead and alias cervine to deer?

Of course, there's only one cervine_taur tag, so I'd say an alias is unneeded--jsut retag and move on :)

not the same thing, cervine is a animal family while deer is a informal grouping of some species within that family. if anything the reverse would be the case, "deer" is just a informal term for a number of species that are just a small portion of species that are actually covered by cervine...

Darou said:
not the same thing, cervine is a animal family while deer is a informal grouping of some species within that family. if anything the reverse would be the case, "deer" is just a informal term for a number of species that are just a small portion of species that are actually covered by cervine...

I can't think of a cervid that isn't informally called a deer. Cervidae is informally referred to as the deer family. The distinction between "deer" and "cervine" here is... blurry at best. As far as I can tell, cervine is the over-arching group, deer includes lighter-framed species, generic unspecific species, and excludes the heavier-framed moose, elk, and caribou.

"Deer" or Cervidae by wikipedia, is defined as 2 groups:

• Cervinae, or old world deer, consisting of:
• Muntjac

Fallow deer
Chital
Hog Deer
Elk
Red deer

• Capreolinae, or new world deer, consist of:
• Reindeer

Moose
Roe deer
Brocket
Marsh Deer
Pudu
White tailed Deer
Mule Deer

So...

regsmutt said:
I can't think of a cervid that isn't informally called a deer. Cervidae is informally referred to as the deer family. The distinction between "deer" and "cervine" here is... blurry at best. As far as I can tell, cervine is the over-arching group, deer includes lighter-framed species, generic unspecific species, and excludes the heavier-framed moose, elk, and caribou.

"Deer" is a broad family ranging from bitty micro deer to moose, and the main difference between the two families is how their ankles are built. There's no divide based off of weight or size.

AFAIK, anyway. America, for the record, has 5 deer species: White tailed, mule deer, caribou/reindeer, elk and moose.

SnowWolf said:
"Deer" is a broad family ranging from bitty micro deer to moose, and the main difference between the two families is how their ankles are built. There's no divide based off of weight or size.

AFAIK, anyway. America, for the record, has 5 deer species: White tailed, mule deer, caribou/reindeer, elk and moose.

I'm not referring to technical taxonomy terms, just the difference between the cervine and deer tags as they are used on this site. 'Deer' is somehow used as a distinct species tag despite all species covered by the 'cervine' tag technically being deer. What separates the distinct tagged species that do NOT get a 'deer' tag (elk, moose, reindeer) from the species that DO seems to be based on aesthetic rather than subfamily.

Of course, this distinction isn't official and some elk/moose/reindeer are still tagged deer. The wiki for the deer tag is incredibly unhelpful as well, sounding like it should be used like the cervine tag. To both I added some undertagged but common species to the wiki pages- hopefully having those tags more visible will encourage them to be used more.

regsmutt said:
I'm not referring to technical taxonomy terms, just the difference between the cervine and deer tags as they are used on this site. 'Deer' is somehow used as a distinct species tag despite all species covered by the 'cervine' tag technically being deer. What separates the distinct tagged species that do NOT get a 'deer' tag (elk, moose, reindeer) from the species that DO seems to be based on aesthetic rather than subfamily.

Of course, this distinction isn't official and some elk/moose/reindeer are still tagged deer. The wiki for the deer tag is incredibly unhelpful as well, sounding like it should be used like the cervine tag. To both I added some undertagged but common species to the wiki pages- hopefully having those tags more visible will encourage them to be used more.

I was jsut providing the wikipedia definition, which sometimes comes into play.

The horned-hooved critters all look a lot alike, especially when you take 'em bipedal and throw them through the 'artistic style' filter.

SnowWolf said:
I was jsut providing the wikipedia definition, which sometimes comes into play.

The horned-hooved critters all look a lot alike, especially when you take 'em bipedal and throw them through the 'artistic style' filter.

Definitely. With the exception of moose (at least most of the time), it's hard to tell at a glance what species of deer is intended. Plus a good number of deer pictures aren't actually intended to be a specific species beyond just "deer". Because the tags of 'cervine' and 'deer' are SO similar, I think one should be aliased, probably keeping 'deer' just because it's the more common term. Imo the real question is are people looking for generic dainty deer going to be peeved to enough with moose in their search to justify keeping the terms separate.

according to search.. 567 mooses, 11931 deer, 294 elk 2188 reindeer

... I think they'll be fine--especially as so many of these critters are told apart via antlers and size.

as for deertaur... be nice to have a way to find the 'big deer' taurs, but honestly, after a quick skim through, there's only a few that look like "moosetaur" or "Cariboutaur", rather than just sizable deer (and deer themselves can get pretty big.... so, all in all: I wouldn't worry about the 'clarification' of different types of deertaurs. though I'd argue that maybe it SHOULD be 'cervinetaur' or cervitaur or whatever, but deertaur's been established for a while, so... :)