Topic: Regarding "Pegging" with Female/Female

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Pegging is classified as "A woman using a strap-on to penetrate a man's anus," but there are times when a woman uses a strap-on to penetrate another woman's ass, too. Is there an alternate tag for that? Because, if not, I'd like to propose removing the male implication so that it can be used for female/female, intersex/female, or even female/ambiguous images.

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Whether or not we keep the pegging name, I'd like to remove the male implication because it's confusing. :/

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Furrin_Gok said:
Har har, saw that one coming :P

Expected it to come from Munk though.

Wasn't a joke.

To be honest though, while pegging is technically female-on-male, I'm not personally against using it as a catch-all for strapon-up-the-ass as a tag. I'm sure there will be those opposed though.

I just don't see the point of having it used only for female/male when we consider the other various gender tags in use by e621. Does a dickgirl count as a male for pegging rules? A herm? A cuntboy? What about something that just has a cloaca? Does a herm/cuntboy/dickgirl count as the female role?

The way I figure, the reason pegging specifically refers to female-on-male is that generally a male will use their own dick or a non-strapped on dildo on a partner (regardless of gender) - thus pegging doesn't get used for male-on-whatever. Art can do funny stuff though...so, like I said: strapon-up-the-ass = pegging in my book, regardless of genders.

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Genjar

Former Staff

Pegging specifically refers to a form of female domination. If it's going to be used for other gender combos such as female/female, then yes, it needs an another name. Strapon_anal or anal_strapon seems like a sufficient replacement.

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Genjar said:
Pegging specifically refers to a form of female domination. If it's going to be used for other gender combos such as female/female, then yes, it needs an another name.

This. It wouldn't be accurate to try to generalize it under that same name. Also, if we tried to use it in a generalized sense we'd get people fighting it with retags because it's a rather widely known specific definition.

I'm more on the side of keeping it as is. It's a specific and common enough fetish that people might want to search for just that, as opposed to those searching for any of the other forms of strapon usage... Though it does seem that people do occasionally mistakenly assume that it just generally means "using a strapon on somebody".

On the other side of the coin, I'm not even sure we need specific scenario tags for every case of a strapon being used at all; Can't someone find what they're looking for in this category quite easily 95% of the time just by using simple tag combinations? I think the vast majority of pics that have strapon tagged probably feature it in use, so a search like: strapon anal_penetration female/female handles the specific case in OP that has been discussed so far, as well as most gender combos right? I mean sure there will be a few scattered about where the tagged strapon will be lying on the floor in the background or something, but I don't think that's significant enough to be worth worrying about... Or am I missing something?

If not, my vote would be to keep things how they are, or even eliminate the pegging tag entirely and have no specific tags, as opposed to trying to implement specific tags for multiple strapon scenarios.

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Genjar said:
Pegging specifically refers to a form of female domination. If it's going to be used for other gender combos such as female/female, then yes, it needs an another name. Strapon_anal or anal_strapon seems like a sufficient replacement.

Anal_strapon sounds like you're strapping on an artificial anus.
Strapon_anal I think is the better option.

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Genjar

Former Staff

Crispix said:
If not, my vote would be to keep things how they are, or even eliminate the pegging tag entirely and have no specific tags, as opposed to trying to implement specific tags for multiple strapon scenarios.

Those seem like the best options. Users who search for 'pegging' are almost certainly looking for femdom, so aliasing it to more generic anal_strapon would only annoy users who liked the tag.

Maybe we should just keep it as is. Some would continue to tag it contrary to the definition, but I can think of plenty of tags that get mistagged more frequently.

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Genjar said:
Those seem like the best options. Users who search for 'pegging' are almost certainly looking for femdom, so aliasing it to more generic anal_strapon would only annoy users who liked the tag.

Maybe we should just keep it as is. Some would continue to tag it contrary to the definition, but I can think of plenty of tags that get mistagged more frequently.

Personally, I feel the best course of action would be to just remove the female/male implication. If a person wants to search it for "Femdon," they can search for pegging male/female and get the old results.

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Furrin_Gok said:
Personally, I feel the best course of action would be to just remove the female/male implication. If a person wants to search it for "Femdon," they can search for pegging male/female and get the old results.

I really think that trying to force the continued use of the pegging tag outside of it's original meaning would be a mistake in this instance because it's a specific term, external to furry lexicon, with the clear and specific meaning of a female penetrating a male with a strapon/sextoy.

It would be kind of analogous to saying "we should use this ham_sandwich tag for every kind of sandwich like turkey/chicken/roastbeef, and then if people actually want to find a ham sandwich, they can just search for ham_sandwhich ham"

Pegging is only even a "thing" with it's own specific name because it reverses the standard gender roles in a way that can appeal to people for various reasons; Without that, it probably wouldn't have a specific name.

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Crispix said:
I really think that trying to force the continued use of the pegging tag outside of it's original meaning would be a mistake in this instance because it's a specific term, external to furry lexicon, with the clear and specific meaning of a female penetrating a male with a strapon/sextoy.

It would be kind of analogous to saying "we should use this ham_sandwich tag for every kind of sandwich like turkey/chicken/roastbeef, and then if people actually want to find a ham sandwich, they can just search for ham_sandwhich ham"

Pegging is only even a "thing" with it's own specific name because it reverses the standard gender roles in a way that can appeal to people for various reasons; Without that, it probably wouldn't have a specific name.

It's either we redefine its use here, or we alias it to the new tag. We don't use gender specific tags here, after all.

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